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Re: [CQ-Contest] How to make WRTC more like the Olympics?

To: "'Jim George'" <n3bb@mindspring.com>, <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] How to make WRTC more like the Olympics?
From: "Ed Sawyer" <sawyered@earthlink.net>
Reply-to: sawyered@earthlink.net
Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2016 18:54:39 -0400
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Jim, I defer to your experience on the past WRTCs.  Its unquestionable.

However, there are 2 points to be made here:

- The way you described qualifying for 2014 will NOT work for 2018.  The
Multis are essentially a death sentence in the current qualifying.
- I was commenting on making it like the Olympics.  Not judging it on
whether it's the best system yet.  Its far from the Olympics and never will
be when 50% don't even qualify that compete as a start.

Ed  N1UR 

-----Original Message-----
From: Jim George [mailto:n3bb@mindspring.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2016 6:11 PM
To: sawyered@earthlink.net; cq-contest@contesting.com
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] How to make WRTC more like the Olympics?

As one who has competed, refereed, and written about three different WRTCs,
and worked hard to qualify for Moscow in 2010 (and didn't make it), I
believe that the present system is a good one. It is strenuous, but doable
if one really wants to hit it hard. People qualified for WRTC in New England
with their own stations and by traveling to "super stations" as guest ops,
as well as joining multi-op stations with good locations and antennas. That
was the case in a number of team leaders in WRTC 2014, and I tried to
capture that effort with several people as examples. Yes, it's expensive and
yes, it's time-consuming. There are a few that have great stations at home,
and/or live in geographically advantaged locations. But many if not most of
the WRTC 2014 team leaders did it the hard way, with lots of guest operating
and strategic planning.

With deference to Dave, K8CC, I think this beats the old method of handing a
slot to the largest clubs, although each club did have an internal qual
system. In this area Texas, none of the clubs is large enough to be granted
a qual slot, so we would be at the mercy of "groveling" for a seat (probably
too strong a word, but I'll use it) with club to our east or west.

All in all, the current qual processes are well documented. It's a very hard
process and many people are not able or willing to take it on. That is a
factor indeed, and so some terrific operators must seek spots based on their
reputations and friendships. But all in all, I think the current process is
the best one yet.

Jim George
N3BB

  At 05:48 PM 8/16/2016 -0400, Ed Sawyer wrote:
>You can't make something more like the Olympics that is fundamentally 
>flawed in how it works.
>
>The Olympics tests people on EXACTLY the same event regionally with 
>people competing head to head.  Those people then meet in one place and 
>re-compete in EXACTLY the same event.
>
>WRTC has 50% of people that compete in very different circumstances and 
>conditions doing mostly the same thing but not necessarily (HP, LP, 
>Mult) and then they meet and almost 100% do something different in the 
>final competition.
>
>50% of the participants are just friends of the first 50%.
>
>Adding video and sound and having visitors doesn't change the above.
Sorry.
>
>Ed  N1UR

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