To me the whole thing seems a bit inconsistent. I've seen rules violations
aplenty that were unnoticed, like stations calling for hours out of band,
7125 LSB in ARRL DX there was a top north east station who did less than 10
years ago, no penalties. Meanwhile something based on seemingly shaky
evidence gets a DQ?
The NFL can show us video replays that they make calls on. Clearly it works
for them. I don't see transparency as a bad thing, unless the original
poster is correct, in that this is really an unfair decision designed to
penalize some and not others.
Ria
N2RJ
On Tue, Feb 21, 2017 at 8:57 PM, W0MU Mike Fatchett <w0mu@w0mu.com> wrote:
Because I do not want the methods of they way they are finding cheaters
exposed so that the cheaters can modify their behavior to beat the checks.
Cheating is real it happens far too much and I am willing to bet that many
people are still getting away with stuff.
Either you trust those in charge or you don't. If you don't then don't
operate.
If people would not cheat we would not be having this discussion.
Asking friends to spot you is assistance. Asking others in a contest to
spot you is assistance. Don't do it.
W0MU
On 2/21/2017 4:31 PM, Roberto Rey wrote:
I don't really agree with your assessment Jeff. Aren't we all friends
here? Why can't I discuss what happened to me with my fellow contesters? Is
the contest committee the "Enlightened Ones" that never make a mistake?
If I have nothing to hide and feel mistreated I will go and tell someone:
Hey this happenend to me.. can you believe it? And the ones to tell my
story are my fellow contestors. Now if I am a fat cheater and get caught,
wouldn't I just go and hide under the first rock I find and not make any
noise? But I have not cheated I will make some noise and make my case be
heard!
I for one think there is something brewing in these DQs and somehting has
to been done... Where there's smoke, there's fire...
73 de Rob HK3CW
----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeffrey Clarke" <ku8e@bellsouth.net>
To: "CQ-Contest Reflector" <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2017 4:07 PM
Subject: [CQ-Contest] R: Re: R: 3V8SS disqualified from WW SSB and WRTC
I think this is at least the 3rd time I can think of that someone who
has been disqualified in a CQWW contest that has tried to plead their case
on the contest reflector. This isn't the correct forum to do that and I
don't think you're going to get you much sympathy. The issue should be
private between the contest adjudicator and the station in question. I know
in the past they have been willing to work with a station who they suspect
broke the rules and maybe persuade them have their submitted log
reclassified as a check log.
We are hearing only one side of the story when the accused party posts
something on the reflector criticising the contest sponsor. How do we
really know what they are saying is really true? I'm not saying that the
person in question broke a rule purposely. It could be something as simple
as not understanding the rules that can get you DQed.
The CQWW Contest committee consists of a bunch of well respected
contesters that have been doing this a long time. They aren't going to go
and DQ anyone for making one mistake. I believe when they see a pattern
that is inconsistent with the rules is when they consider a DQ.
Jeff
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