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Re: [CQ-Contest] Contesting 10 years from now (2007)

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Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Contesting 10 years from now (2007)
From: S57AD <mirko.s57ad@gmail.com>
Reply-to: mirko.s57ad@gmail.com
Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2018 14:16:38 +0200
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​Club stations and simple minor contests, especially local ones held on 80m
were extremely valuable recruiting young contesters in former Yugoslavia as
well, and the last several pages of our ham radio magazine where were
published contest stories (somethinl like soapbox comments) and results of
all mayor international contests contributed to motivation (most of young
people couldn't afford to subscribe to CQ magazine, QST, etc).  Local 80m
contests were excellent school for budding operastors and lot of them at
soon achieved remarkable results in big international events.

73  Mirko, S57AD​

2018-03-28 15:06 GMT+02:00 Igor Sokolov <ua9cdc@gmail.com>:

> Exactly Ria!
>
> Things that come easy, go away easy as well. Club stations here in Russia
> played the major role in attracting new blood.
>
> Big contest stations should get newcomers more involved in contesting
> offering seats in simple minor contests.
>
>
> 73, Igor UA9CDC
>
> 27.03.2018 20:02, rjairam@gmail.com пишет:
>
>> “Are there any Tech only or Tech-oriented CW sprints/contests, besides the
>> rookie roundup? “
>>
>> Field day.
>>
>> As for the CW concern, that’s largely a function of elmering. This is my
>> problem with some of the recent proposals - there is the expectation by
>> some that we will grant more privileges and things will just automatically
>> get better. Not saying more privileges is a bad thing, just it needs to be
>> done smart with the mentoring component added. Otherwise it won’t do a
>> thing.
>>
>> That’s why I say - field day. We need more field day types of events even
>> if just indoors.
>>
>> Ria
>> N2RJ
>> On Tue, Mar 27, 2018 at 10:22 AM Sterling Coffey <kawfey@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> We don't hear more of them on because there are a number of barriers to
>>> entry that tech's aren't generally willing to hurdle at that point in
>>> their
>>> experience with the hobby.
>>>
>>>
>>>     1. CW *is* hard; to get up to contest speeds is a big ask for a lot
>>> of
>>>     people, only the most hams most interested in CW and disciplined to
>>> learn
>>>     it get to that level of confidence before operating - a tiny
>>> fraction of
>>>     techs
>>>     2. Tech callsigns are long and op skills are lower, which causes
>>>     varying levels of consternation in everyone involved, leading to a
>>> brutal
>>>     or even rejected QSO (which puts a bad taste in the mouth of both
>>> the tech
>>>     and the other op, especially for high strung contests)
>>>     3. After all, we hams generally don't do such a good job advertising
>>>     it or elmering techs and rookies. Anecdotally, I know of only two
>>> hams who
>>>     contested as a tech did it all by their self, with their own gear and
>>>     self-taught code. One of them was me, and the other was a college
>>> friend.
>>>
>>> This was my experience anyway, as KD0BZE nearly 10 years ago. (woah, it's
>>> time to renew!)
>>> Are there any Tech only or Tech-oriented CW sprints/contests, besides the
>>> rookie roundup?
>>>
>>> On Mon, Mar 26, 2018 at 4:41 PM, rjairam@gmail.com <rjairam@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> “Technicians will get active contesting on their new bands, to the
>>>> chagrin of many established operators.”
>>>>
>>>> Techs already have a ticket to the biggest contests today on 40, 80, 15
>>>> and 10 meters. Why don’t we hear more of them on? Even if you say “CW Is
>>>> hard” I hear tons of South American ops on 10 meters phone every
>>>> contest.
>>>> It may not be open to Europe or Asia but it’s definitely open to central
>>>> and South America and the caribbean.
>>>>
>>>> Bear in mind as well that the current ARRL proposal has very contest
>>>> unfriendly segments and no privileges on the most popular contest band
>>>> - 20
>>>> meters. Unless of course you think they will eventually get access to
>>>> more
>>>> favorable segments.
>>>>
>>>> Ria
>>>> N2RJ
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Mar 26, 2018 at 5:34 PM Sterling Coffey <kawfey@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Younger generation chiming in with...contests are going to get a lot
>>>>> less active :(
>>>>>
>>>>> There is a huge contingent of young ops in Region 1 (mostly thanks to
>>>>> YOTA) but on the other sides of the world, youth contesters are a
>>>>> little
>>>>> less organized. That has hopefully changed with the creation of Young
>>>>> Amateurs Radio Club <https://yarc.world/>, the Collegiate Initiative
>>>>> <http://www.facebook.com/groups/ARRLCARI>, and some push to bring a
>>>>> YOTA-like organization to IARU regions 2 and 3.
>>>>>
>>>>> All of that pales in comparison to the age of current contesters. I
>>>>> posit it's slightly lower than the average, but Sweepstakes reports
>>>>> don't
>>>>> lie (although club calls obscure the actual operator's license year,
>>>>> which
>>>>> for W0EEE was 1923 whilst everyone who operated was licensed for less
>>>>> than
>>>>> 5 years.
>>>>>
>>>>> Here's my thoughts for ham radio contesting in 10 years:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>     1. Drops in total logs submitted will invoke new categories for
>>>>>     youth (and not just Rookie) will spring up, just like the college
>>>>>     sub-competition during NAQP and Sweepstakes.
>>>>>     2. New AI category
>>>>>     3. New "Knobs" category
>>>>>     4. Technicians will get active contesting on their new bands, to
>>>>> the
>>>>>     chagrin of many established operators.
>>>>>     5. SSB & CW will be a mainstay but digi contests will begin to
>>>>>     outshine "classic" modes
>>>>>     6. WSJT will flesh out the DXpedition mode into a fully fledged
>>>>>     contest mode, which will allow multiple QSOs per contact
>>>>>     7. Remotes will become ubiquitous and I suspect it'll be put into
>>>>>     it's own category.
>>>>>     8. More livestreaming. I'd love to see a Ham Radio category on
>>>>>     Twitch.tv!
>>>>>     9. contest score reporting will be adopted by a majority; no need
>>>>> to
>>>>>     upload logs as it's being uploaded in realtime on a qso-by-qso
>>>>> basis
>>>>>     10. Additionally, logs are instantaneously and irrefutably
>>>>>     cross-checked for authenticity using signed blockchain technology
>>>>> on the
>>>>>     ethereum (or similar) network (HamRadioCoin is a thing already!
>>>>>     <https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/hamradiocoin/>)
>>>>>     11. Bigdata/Neural networking intertwined with real time conditions
>>>>>     will tell ops which band, mode, and beam azimuth and elevation
>>>>> pattern to
>>>>>     operate for maximum rate
>>>>>     12. There will be no need to ask QRL? Your radio determines the
>>>>> best
>>>>>     TX frequency in the band and decodes everything in the band
>>>>> simultaneously
>>>>>     (so there's also no need to reply to a CQ at the same frequency)
>>>>>     1. Expanding on that, there will be AI contests solely dedicated to
>>>>>        automatic QSOs (still requiring some semblance of operator
>>>>> intervention to
>>>>>        meet regulations) running at rates pushing 1200QSO/hr
>>>>>        13. Radio equipment continues their push towards SDR and
>>>>>     miniaturization
>>>>>     14. New inductor technology shrinks the size and cost of linear
>>>>>     amplifiers and power supplies
>>>>>     15. But an elecraft K3, FT-*000, TS-990, Flex 6*00 etc...will still
>>>>>     sell for the same price as they are today.
>>>>>
>>>>> Sterling, N0SSC
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Mar 26, 2018 at 11:10 AM, rjairam@gmail.com <rjairam@gmail.com
>>>>> >
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> My take on 10 years from now:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> A lot of the old guard will sadly be SK, with not a lot of replacement
>>>>>> from younger generation, unless we do something.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Top 3 US for the majors will almost exclusively be remote operation.
>>>>>> The only problem is who will be driving.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Assisted and non-assisted will be combined for some majors. Sad to see
>>>>>> it go, but I am getting used to the idea.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> CW contest entries will remain stable while SSB and digital may see a
>>>>>> modest boost.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Digital (HF) contests will include weak signal (WSJT) modes.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> VHF contests will be nearly all weak signal (WSJT) modes on 6 meters.
>>>>>> It's pretty much that way now.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> HOAs - the South and Southwest US will continue to have tons of HOA
>>>>>> issues. As the US East Coast slows in population growth and new
>>>>>> housing starts, that's where there will be fewer restrictions. But
>>>>>> that comes with two caveats - winter and cost of living, unless you do
>>>>>> remote operation.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hams will still like knobbed radios although the market for SDRs is
>>>>>> growing.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 73
>>>>>> Ria
>>>>>> N2RJ
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sun, Mar 25, 2018 at 5:32 PM, Mark <markzl3ab@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I was looking for something else and stumbled across this on the
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> interweb.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I hope ES5TV doesn't mind me posting the link.  It sure make
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> interesting
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> reading now.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://www.lhv.ee/images/files/2017.pdf
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Any bets on the next ten years?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 73
>>>>>>> Mark ZL3AB
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