GM Joe
Well I do agree with you about contest and FT8. I will
certainly admit it has it's
pluses and minuses. In my case I really believe it is a
passing thing. I just can not
help wondering if it is taking away too much activity from many
cw/rtty operators.
Also the desire for new hams to develop/improve cw/rtty
skills. Time will tell if
the balance sheet favored FT8.
All the best BoB WA1FCN
On 3/25/2019 8:05 AM, Joe wrote:
Thing is about FT-8,,
As someone who has played with it a LOT. 1000's of contacts. And have
tried in a few contests too. And I can see only two ways it will ever
be a "Contest Mode"
1- When the conditions are sooo extremely bad that CW & SSB are just
not cutting it.
2- When you have it set up to run 100% automatically on it's own. (not
really legal if left un attended)
The 100% automated is easy to do. And I have actually done it just to
see how hard it would be and if it would handle the task. I sat and
watched it run the freq. I never left it alone so would be legal. It
ran flawlessly and made over a hundred contacts all by itself.
BUT.... if the band is open then it is incredibly SLOW!!!!!!! I can
make ten times the contacts in CW or SSB in the time FT-8 takes to
make one and thats if all exchanges were copied with one try. And
staying with digital RTTY would be similar effect probably close to
ten times the contacts.
FT-8 is far from a Contest mode. Just toooo slow.
Joe WB9SBD
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On 3/24/2019 8:53 PM, robert wrote:
GE Jeff
I hate to say it but your remark about "dumb down contest to
the point
where no skills are required " is on the horizon when it
comes to FT8.
This from someone who spends 20% of his time on FT8 ! I
believe it is also
making some of us a bit more of a lazy operator.
73 BoB WA1FCN
On 3/24/2019 4:36 PM, Jeff Clarke wrote:
If you're into FT8 there seems to be plenty of DX spotted on a daily
basis to keep your typical DXer happy despite the bad radio conditions.
Can you see the scenario in the future that those casual contesters
are going to call for the sponsors to all add FT8 as a valid mode
for their contest? Hope it doesn't happen and dumb down contests to
the point where no skills are required.
Jeff
On 3/24/2019 03:24 PM, Bill kollenbaum via CQ-Contest wrote:
The post was not about the demise of contesting, it was about
sunspots numbers and propagation. If you look at the numbers, they
predict a flux consistently in the 50s. I can't remember ever
seeing a number that low. We have been banging around 70 or so for
most of this year, with a few exception like those right now
(around 80). Almost everyone seems to agree, that at that number
conditions are not very good
Of course we will always have some bands open, but if the null in
the sunspots continue through 2022 it is generally thought that
this cycle will be extremely low at the peak since there is a
direct correlation between the length of the minimum and the
strength of the next cycle.
This may or may not have an effect on contesting. However, it is
pretty easy to see that it has had an effect on daily operating.
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Bill,
You have made other statements about the demise of contesting. It's
not happening.
For example, 2900 QSO's from New Mexico in ARRL DX CW a few
weekends ago. No
sunspots. Great fun.
73,
Steve, N2IC
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