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RE: [Karlnet] Intro - Board Specs

To: "'Karlnet Mailing List'" <karlnet@WISPNotes.com>
Subject: RE: [Karlnet] Intro - Board Specs
From: "Mark Wauchope" <mark@ekiva.net>
Reply-to: mark@ekiva.net, Karlnet Mailing List <karlnet@WISPNotes.com>
Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2003 11:17:05 -0700
List-post: <mailto:karlnet@WISPNotes.com>
I am curious what people are using as a chassis or enclosure for these
boards.

Also, I know how important price is to most of us especially when it
comes to CPE equipment so I am going to put in a plug for my vendor of
KarlNet products:

Winncom Technologies sells the software licenses for about 20% cheaper
than Charles and the new boards are $30-$40 cheaper than Charles quoted
here on the list.  I had many people ask me who my vendor was last time
I mentioned the price of the software licenses.  Charles does have
significantly more knowledge of the products and is able to offer better
support but if price is your bottom-line, then check out Winncom -
http://www.winncom.com
Talk to Polina Sorg, she is an excellent saleswoman.
BTW, I do not receive anything by recommending Winncom.  I just know how
important price is to us when looking for CPE equipment (infrastructure
equipment too, I guess).

-- 
Mark Wauchope, Director of Engineering, Kivanet Inc 
776 East Second Avenue Suite 207 Durango, CO  81301 
970-749-2711  http://www.ekiva.net/  mark@ekiva.net


> -----Original Message-----
> From: karlnet-bounces@WISPNotes.com 
> [mailto:karlnet-bounces@WISPNotes.com] On Behalf Of Caleb Carroll
> Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2003 2:10 PM
> To: Karlnet Mailing List
> Subject: RE: [Karlnet] Intro - Board Specs
> 
> 
> I just recieved the new boards and tried 802.11b compatible 
> access point mode.
> 
> It doesn't work with Prism 2.5 cards.
> 
> Works with Orinoco Gold, Avaya Gold, Avaya Silver.
> 
> *********** REPLY SEPARATOR  ***********
> 
> On 2003-Mar-08 at 8:51 PM Charles Chia Sheng Wu wrote:
> 
> >well...we haven't had any luck w/ the prism 2.0 - waiting 
> for the prism 
> >2.5 cards to come in
> >
> >-Charles
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: karlnet-bounces@WISPNotes.com 
> >[mailto:karlnet-bounces@WISPNotes.com]On Behalf Of Caleb Carroll
> >Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2003 6:24 PM
> >To: Karlnet Mailing List
> >Subject: RE: [Karlnet] Intro - Board Specs
> >
> >
> >Charles, Are you ever going to tell us if the new boards work in 
> >802.11b mode with Prism 2.5 cards or are you going to keep 
> that secret 
> >to yourself?
> >
> >*********** REPLY SEPARATOR  ***********
> >
> >On 2003-Mar-08 at 1:33 PM Charles Chia Sheng Wu wrote:
> >
> >>ok...
> >>
> >>after a brief recall false alarm (KarlNet issue), boards 
> are shipping
> >again
> >>and everyone is happy
> >>
> >>Pricing is as follows
> >>
> >>1 Port Boards:
> >>
> >>Q1-9: $150
> >>Q10-29: $145
> >>Q30-49: $140
> >>Q50+: Offlist
> >>
> >>2 Port Boards:
> >>
> >>Q1-9: $185
> >>Q10-29: $177.50
> >>Q30-49: $172
> >>Q50+: Offlist
> >>
> >>Also...there are even better deals if you buy software w/ the board
> >>
> >>-Charles
> >>
> >>-----Original Message-----
> >>From: karlnet-bounces@WISPNotes.com 
> >>[mailto:karlnet-bounces@WISPNotes.com]On Behalf Of Bill Fisher
> >>Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2003 10:42 AM
> >>To: Karlnet Mailing List
> >>Subject: Re: [Karlnet] Intro - Board Specs
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>Charles there are no List-Nazi's here.  Feel free to post 
> your pricing 
> >>if you like.
> >>
> >>Bill Fisher
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>----- Original Message -----
> >>From: "Charles Chia Sheng Wu" <cwu@cwlab.net>
> >>To: "Karlnet Mailing List" <karlnet@WISPNotes.com>
> >>Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2003 11:10 PM
> >>Subject: RE: [Karlnet] Intro - Board Specs
> >>
> >>
> >>> yes - offlist (we shipped our first boards on Thursday)
> >>>
> >>> -Charles
> >>>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: karlnet-bounces@WISPNotes.com 
> >>> [mailto:karlnet-bounces@WISPNotes.com]On Behalf Of Nate McLain
> >>> Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2003 10:01 PM
> >>> To: Karlnet Mailing List
> >>> Subject: RE: [Karlnet] Intro - Board Specs
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Charles,
> >>>
> >>> Do you have these in stock currently??
> >>> If so I'm ready to order a few.
> >>>
> >>> Nate
> >>>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: karlnet-bounces@WISPNotes.com 
> >>> [mailto:karlnet-bounces@WISPNotes.com]On Behalf Of Charles Chia 
> >>> Sheng Wu
> >>> Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2003 8:51 PM
> >>> To: Karlnet Mailing List
> >>> Subject: RE: [Karlnet] Intro - Board Specs
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Full Version WPAP+ / WPBASE+
> >>> SPECIFICATIONS
> >>> CPU ST-PC Elite @ 133MHz
> >>> BIOS KarlNet Optimized, PC-compatible, in Flash ROM.
> >>> RAM 16MB on-board DRAM for programs and data.
> >>> Storage 512KB on-board Flash ROM (BIOS and
> >>> KarlNet firmware); Linear Flash support for factory loading. Data 
> >>> Interface PCMCIA / CARDBUS sockets
> >>> 3.3/5V Selectable operations
> >>> 10/100mbps Auto-sense Fast Ethernet
> >>> Power Input 9V to 15V DC in, either from the Input Jack, 
> or Power over
> >>> Ethernet input from the RJ45 port supports the proposed 
> IEEE 802.3af PoE
> >>> Standard.  Power consumption ~9W fully loaded.
> >>> Second Ethernet port may be used as a PoE injector when 
> DC power is
> >>applied
> >>> to first Ethernet Port.
> >>> Additional Features
> >>> Fully Industrial Strength Chipset
> >>> Reset / Reload Pushbutton Switches,
> >>> Hardware Watchdog Timer,
> >>> Programmable GPIO register for Input/Output,
> >>> FCC Class A Certification
> >>> Compact Flash Socket for Future Upgrades
> >>> Piezo Buzzer
> >>> Software control for header for external fan (voltage 
> supply, 5 volt 
> >>> / 1
> >>AMP
> >>> or sync current)
> >>> Speaker output header
> >>> LEDs for Board Power status, Link/ Activity for Ethernets & Link /
> >>Activity
> >>> for PCMCIA / Cardbus sockets
> >>> Form Factor 3.8" x 5.2" x 1.1" basic board size, with dual-side 
> >>> major component placement, the same basic mounting holes as the 
> >>> RG-1000. Operating Temperature -30°  to 55° Celsius (° to 131° 
> >>> Fahrenheit) predicted temperature range, with non-condensing 
> >>> humidity.
> >>>
> >>> Lower cost Version WPCPE+
> >>> SPECIFICATIONS
> >>> CPU ST-PC Elite @ 133MHz
> >>> BIOS KarlNet Optimized, PC-compatible, in Flash ROM.
> >>> RAM 16MB on-board DRAM for programs and data.
> >>> Storage 512KB on-board Flash ROM (BIOS and
> >>> KarlNet firmware); Linear Flash support for factory loading.  
> >>> Compact
> >>Flash
> >>> socket for future software upgrades.
> >>> Data Interface
> >>> PCMCIA / CARDBUS sockets
> >>> 3.3/5V Selectable operations
> >>> 10/100mbps Auto-sense Fast Ethernet
> >>> Power Input 9V to 15V DC in, either from the Input Jack, or Power 
> >>> over Ethernet input from the RJ45 port supports the proposed IEEE 
> >>> 802.3af PoE Standard.  Power consumption ~9W fully loaded. 
> >>> Additional Features Fully Industrial rated Chipset
> >>> Reset / Reload Pushbutton Switches,
> >>> Hardware Watchdog Timer,
> >>> Programmable GPIO register for Input/Output,
> >>> FCC Class A Certification
> >>> Compact Flash Socket for Future Upgrades
> >>> Piezo Buzzer
> >>> Software control for header for external fan (voltage 
> supply, 5 volt / 1
> >>AMP
> >>> or sync current)
> >>> Speaker output header
> >>> LEDs for Board Power status, Link/ Activity for Ethernets & Link /
> >>Activity
> >>> for PCMCIA / Cardbus sockets
> >>> Form Factor 3.8" x 5.2" x .9" basic board size, with 
> dual-side major 
> >>> component placement, the same basic mounting holes as the 
> RG-1000. 
> >>> Operating Temperature -30°  to 55° Celsius (-22° to 131° 
> Fahrenheit) 
> >>> predicted temperature
> >>range,
> >>> with non-condensing humidity.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: karlnet-bounces@WISPNotes.com 
> >>> [mailto:karlnet-bounces@WISPNotes.com]On Behalf Of George Minich
> >>> Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2003 7:54 PM
> >>> To: Karlnet Mailing List
> >>> Subject: Re: [Karlnet] Intro
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Please post all hardware and pricing.
> >>>
> >>> Thanks
> >>>
> >>> George
> >>>
> >>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>> From: "Charles Chia Sheng Wu" <cwu@cwlab.net>
> >>> To: "Karlnet Mailing List" <karlnet@WISPNotes.com>
> >>> Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2003 8:47 PM
> >>> Subject: RE: [Karlnet] Intro
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> > >Hi All,
> >>> >
> >>> > Hi Caleb
> >>> >
> >>> > >I've been using Karlnet for about a year and I only just now 
> >>> > >stumbled
> >>> > accross this mailing list.  I've been going through
> >>> > >the past threads looking for some of the problems I've 
> >>> > >experienced.
> >>> >
> >>> > that's good
> >>> >
> >>> > >I've seen a few posts regarding Karlnet's "support" 
> for Linux.  
> >>> > >If
> >>anyone
> >>> > is looking for help with the Linux drivers, pay a
> >>> > >visit to my FTP site.  You will find RPM's and 
> documentation for
> >>getting
> >>> > the Linux TurboCell drivers working.
> >>> > >ftp://ftp.pathcom.ca/i-Path/TurboCell/Linux
> >>> >
> >>> > >About me.. I'm managing a small WISP west of Calgary, Alberta,
> >Canada.
> >>> The
> >>> > company I work for, Pathcom Wireless Inc.,
> >>> > >provides high-speed internet service in an area of roughly 1000
> >square
> >>> > miles using 13 base stations (Karlnet SA-4400 on AP-
> >>> > >1000).  Backhaul from each base station to our fiber 
> gateway is 
> >>> > >via
> >>> various
> >>> > high-bandwidth radios.
> >>> >
> >>> > cool
> >>> >
> >>> > >I've been using high-power, 23dBm Prism 2.5 based PC Cards
> >sucessfully
> >>in
> >>> > RG-1100's and AP-1000's for a few months now with
> >>> > >only one problem that re-occured a couple of times: 
> overheating.  
> >>> > >The
> >>two
> >>> > brands that I've used are: Zcomax XI-325HP
> >>> > >(Expensive, $179!), Netgate (re-branded Senao) NL-2511CD Plus 
> >>> > >Ext2
> >>($95
> >>> > from www.netgate.com)
> >>> >
> >>> > that's why you need the new KarlNet board - just released, but 
> >>> > built
> >to
> >>> > withstand the greater power draw of the prism cards
> >>> >
> >>> > >What I could use some help with:
> >>> >
> >>> > >- I was trying to set up a Wi-fi hotspot and wanted to 
> use a high
> >>power
> >>> > card.  I was shocked when I discovered that although 
> >the AP-1000 
> >>> > with
> >>one
> >>> > of the Netgate cards operates flawlessly when setup as 
> a TurboCell
> >base
> >>> > station, the AP-1000 will not
> >>> > >finish booting when it is set up as an 802.11b 
> compatible access
> >>point!
> >>> >
> >>> > You need the new 2 card slot, 2 port KarlNet board - 
> retails for 
> >>> > $185
> >-
> >>> > check the archives for more details (or I can post em again if 
> >>> > people
> >>want
> >>> > to see em)
> >>> >
> >>> > >So far, I've tried to work around the problem by:
> >>> > >- Flashing the Netgate card with 4 different versions 
> of the base 
> >>> > >&
> >>> station
> >>> > functions firmware from Intersil.
> >>> > >- Trying to use one of the Zcomax cards in 802.11b 
> access point 
> >>> > >mode.
> >>> (same
> >>> > problem, AP-1000 will not finish booting)
> >>> >
> >>> > do you have 2 cards in your AP-1000? if so, which cards?
> >>> >
> >>> > >Anyone have experience with using Prism 2.5 based cards in 
> >>> > >802.11b
> >>mode?
> >>> > According to Karlnet release notes for v4.31
> >>> > >firmware, Intersil Prism 2.5 based cards are supposed 
> to work in 
> >>> > >both
> >>> > TurboCell and 802.11 mode.  See:
> >>> >
> >>>
> >>>http://www.karlnet.com/Documents/ReleaseNotes/Software%20Re
> lease%20ve
> >>>rsion
> >%
> >>> > 204.31.htm#_Toc32119586
> >>> >
> >>> > IMO, it's probably not a firmware issue, rather, if you have 2 
> >>> > cards
> >>> loaded
> >>> > in the AP-1000, it's a power draw issue
> >>> >
> >>> > -Charles
> >>> >
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