You forgot to mention that the N-Stream Protocol offers Polling :-)
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> From: karlnet-bounces@WISPNotes.com
[mailto:karlnet-bounces@WISPNotes.com] On
> Behalf Of Brad Gass
> Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2004 11:33 AM
> To: blair@wmwisp.net; Karlnet Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [Karlnet] RE: YDI to discontinue sale of Karlnet OEM
Boards
>
> I sent Doug and Reg a private message with my thoughts (thanks again
Reg
> for your efforts and being as upfront as possible, we appreciate it),
and
> before I go into that letter further, here's my thoughts on the $499
> "deal"...
>
> As an exercise, let's put together pricing for quantity ten non
Karlnet
> CPE's and see what shakes out for price:
>
> Pacific Wireless 2.4GHz 18dBi RooTenna Antenna - $73
> PC Engines WRAP.2C SBC with Star-OS License and CF Card - $140
> Wistron Neweb CM9 Atheros 5004 based 802.11a/b/g Radio - $52
> PoE Injector and Tap - $17
> Total - $282
>
> And, that wasn't even "scrounging" for the best possible deal.
>
> Will the $499 "street price" reach $282 in quantity 10 from a reseller
or
> distributor? I doubt it, but even if it did, I'd still seriously
think
> about going this route, and here's why:
>
> 1) More powerful hardware - WAY, WAY, WAAAYYY more powerful.
> 2) More software features - WAY more features, shaping, QoS,
firewalling,
> NAT, and more.
> 3) Common parts - you can buy the pieces listed at four or more online
> vendors every day of the week. Not to mention the base and CPE's use
the
> same hardware.
> 4) Expandability and flexibility - you can run that software on any
> hardware platform it supports (which is reasonably broad). Soekris,
PC
> Engines, Routerboard, Thin PC's, desktop PC's, and more.
> 5) Versatile hardware platform - don't like Star-OS? Fine, how about
> Mikrotik? No? How about LEAF? No? PicoBSD? Or virtually any other
> commercial, free, or homebrew software package that runs on x86
hardware.
> Too bad Karlnet isn't among the list.
>
> It would also elmiminate the need for a separate hardware firewall/NAT
> device at each of our customer's locations, which adds another $40
> disparity in price - in favor of this route.
>
> The value of Karlnet is in the SOFTWARE not the hardware. The
hardware is
> an overpriced, crippled, dead-end product.
>
> There, I said it.
>
> I could go on, but that's my main point - Karlnet's value is in the
> software they provide that gives customers the features they need.
> Realistically, the hardware provides no added value to Karlnet
customers,
> and is more of a hinderance to future software development and added
> features than anything else.
>
>
> Brad
>
>
> > A $499 CPE? And this is a 'Deal'!!
> >
> > Bull! Using the KN-50, adding my own antenna, I get a short range
CPE
> > for $210 and a long range CPE for $250. (my cost, USD) Why would I
wish
> > to trade these for a $499 CPE?
> >
> > I said way back when Karlnet was acquired by YDI that this was not
good
> > for the customers. Seems events are proving me right.
> >
> > I'm also not sure what good an Atheros based CPE is to me as last I
was
> > told the Atheros based Karlnet gear would not talk to the PCMCIA
> > Prism/Hermes based Karlnet gear.
> >
> > So, where do we go from here? Well, we will now quit using Karlnet
for
> > our residential customers. We have been testing mesh ap's and using
the
> > CB3 with them. They seem to work well. For the moment, our
business
> > customers will be installed on Karlnet, but, I am now actively
seeking
> > another product.
> >
> > And after this treatment you can be sure it won't be from YDI!!!
> >
> > PS: Reg, thank you for keeping us informed. Ed and you in the
support
> > department have always been knowledgeable and helpful. Thanks!!
> >
> > Blair Davis
> > West Michigan Wireless ISP
> > 269-686-8648
> >
> > A Division of:
> > Camp Communication Services, INC
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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