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Re: [RTTY] Band Plan and RTTY contesting

To: Jim McDonald <jim@n7us.net>, Don Cassel <ve3xd@rogers.com>
Subject: Re: [RTTY] Band Plan and RTTY contesting
From: Jerry Flanders <jeflanders@comcast.net>
Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2007 12:47:08 -0400
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That is not actually the beacon frequency, as I recall.

But - how big a "guard band" should we actually allow for something 
like this? Do we back off far enough to make it possible to copy the 
beacon on a $30 toy-quality pocket shortwave receiver?

Seriously, is there a useful recommendation that those of us who use 
beacons as well as contests can actually live with? Or, considering 
that most _serious_ beacon users can probably  tolerate a signal 300 
Hz away without interference, do we need a guard band at all - 
especially when contesters only need that spectrum space for a few 
hours per week?

Jerry W4UK

At 12:20 PM 10/22/2007, Jim McDonald wrote:
>That's the frequency of the well known, worldwide NCDXF beacon system:
>
>http://ncdxf.org/beacons.html
>
>I don't think it's asking too much for that one frequency to be spared.
>
>Jim N7US
>
>-------- Original Message --------
>
>
>Please note that I made a typo in my message. The frequency should have
>been
>14.099.7.
>
>Don VE3XD
>
>
> > On Saturday I had to deal with an interfering station on 14.090.7
> > telling me over and over that I was using a frequency reserved for
> > beacons. While he may be technically correct he was wrong in causing
> > excessive interference and also in his interpretation of the band plan
> > rules. When I finally asked him to identify his station he refused and
> > then left the frequency.
> >
> > Just to set things straight the ARRL band plan rules state:
> >
> > "Nothing in the rules recognizes a net's, group's or any individual's
> > special privilege to any specific frequency. Section 97.101(b) of the
> > Rules states that "Each station licensee and each control operator
> > must cooperate in selecting transmitting channels and in making the
> > most effective use of the amateur service frequencies. No frequency
> > will be assigned for the exclusive use of any station." No one "owns"
> > a frequency."
> >
> > And since I'm Canadian and operate under Canadian regulations here is
> > what the RAC band plan states:
> >
> > "GENERAL NOTES:
> > . Where Notes are shown, these activities have priority over other
> > activities.
> > . During major weekend Contest activities, activity in certain modes
> > can spill over into other segments."
> >
> > There are some additional notes but they are not relevant to this
> > situation.
> >
> > So it appears that I was fully within my rights to be operating where
> > I was.
> > You have to wonder why someone would need to find a beacon during a
> > contest anyway as there are more than enough signals on the bands to
> > establish where openings are. We all know that this person was just
> > being a jerk but I think it helps us all to know that there are
> > exceptions to the rules.
> >
> > 73, Don VE3XD
>
>
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