Power companies are trying to make a buck on the cheap. And it's about time
that sort of crap ends. Look at that loser bunch at the FCC. Eat up with
Lawyers that have no concept at all of what is going on in the RF field.
And that ain't going to change.
Used to be we could at least argue and at times persuade them along
technical lines. No more. It's all about M O N E Y.
Dan/W4NTI
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gary McConville" <wb4sq at yahoo.com>
To: <SECC at contesting.com>
Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2006 7:03 PM
Subject: Re: [SECC] [SEDXC] BPL
>I have similar sentiments. Time to finally get the amplifier relay
> fixed.
>
> Gary - WB4SQ
>
> PS - Can the ole SQ give up running barefoot? Maybe the power
> companies just want the hams to run KWs to run up their power bill!
>
> --- Dan/W4NTI <w4nti at mindspring.com> wrote:
>
>> BPL is a flawed technology to begin with. I predict the wireless
>> internet
>> will over power any possibility of BPL becoming cost effective.
>>
>> Another point is this. The power line noise will wipe out BPL in
>> most to
>> all area's. So they are beating a dead horse IMHO.
>>
>> I for one have been fighting Alabama Power for 6 years, and still
>> have PL
>> noise. Do you think the companies will spend BILLIONS to clean up
>> their
>> crappy lines just to make a few million? Don't think so.
>>
>> BPL is going the way of the Dinosaur. And if not I will personally
>> blast it
>> out of this neighborhood. And I don't care if the FCC likes it or
>> not.
>>
>> Dan/W4NTI
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "David Thompson" <thompson at mindspring.com>
>> To: <SECC at contesting.com>; <sedxc at contesting.com>
>> Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2006 6:32 PM
>> Subject: Re: [SECC] [SEDXC] BPL
>>
>>
>> > Ron, W4WA hit the nail on the head about power line noise. I went
>> to
>> > school
>> > with a fellow who graduated in Power Engineering and has worked for
>>
>> > Houston
>> > Con Ed for many years. He told me recently that along the gulf
>> coast they
>> > would gave saved billions if they had gone to underground in the
>> 1960's as
>> > they should have. Then the only power lines would be the big cross
>>
>> > country
>> > lines and the feeder lines to the underground. Of course, this
>> would have
>> > made BPL harder to implement.
>> >
>> > He also told me green poles and concrete are being used more as the
>> old
>> > treated poles require remediation to remove toxic chemicals. The
>> green
>> > poles are also smaller in size. So its all about costs.
>> >
>> > At least Riley and the Field Operations Beureau (field offices such
>> as
>> > Atlanta) are trying to get power companies to clean up their lines.
>> This
>> > includes the big power companies under say Duke Power and Southern
>> Company
>> > along with EMC's which as Ron notes are Cooperatives (used to be
>> rural
>> > coops
>> > but are now in the suburbs).
>> >
>> > On the issue of ingress Ron is betting that the ham will be
>> addressed
>> > first.
>> > I remember the ham in the Gainesville area that was deemed clean
>> but still
>> > put on quiet hours. Is this in our future with BPL??
>> >
>> > The ARRL is really pushing the FCC on BPL and my insiders in
>> Washington
>> > tell
>> > me the FCC is getting tired of the ARRL complaints. They think the
>> ARRL
>> > should work with the BPL suppliers (as they are now) to find
>> solutions as
>> > the FCC and the Federal Government plan on pushing BPL no matter
>> what.
>> > Hopefully notching will get rid of the problems but can they notch
>> > everything? What about other users such as Forest Industries and
>> > Fixed/Mobile? Even DOD at 5Mhz and 8 Mhz among others have had
>> problems
>> > and
>> > you can bet the FCC is more interested in fixing those problems
>> than hams.
>> >
>> > I don't think BPL will go the way of Little Leo's unless the power
>> > companies
>> > can't compete which is a probability.
>> >
>> > Dave K4JRB
>> >
>> >
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