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Subject: [SECC] [SEDXC] BPL
From: w4nti at mindspring.com (Dan/W4NTI)
Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2006 18:56:54 -0600
BPL is a flawed technology to begin with.  I predict the wireless internet 
will over power any possibility of BPL becoming cost effective.

Another point is this.  The power line noise will wipe out BPL in most to 
all area's.  So they are beating a dead horse IMHO.

I for one have been fighting Alabama Power for 6 years,  and still have PL 
noise.  Do you think the companies will spend BILLIONS to clean up their 
crappy lines just to make a few million?  Don't think so.

BPL is going the way of the Dinosaur.  And if not I will personally blast it 
out of this neighborhood.  And I don't care if the FCC likes it or not.

Dan/W4NTI

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "David Thompson" <thompson at mindspring.com>
To: <SECC at contesting.com>; <sedxc at contesting.com>
Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2006 6:32 PM
Subject: Re: [SECC] [SEDXC] BPL


> Ron, W4WA hit the nail on the head about power line noise.  I went to 
> school
> with a fellow who graduated in Power Engineering and has worked for 
> Houston
> Con Ed for many years.  He told me recently that along the gulf coast they
> would gave saved billions if they had gone to underground in the 1960's as
> they should have.  Then the only power lines would be the big cross 
> country
> lines and the feeder lines to the underground.  Of course, this would have
> made BPL harder to implement.
>
> He also told me green poles and concrete are being used more as the old
> treated poles require remediation to remove toxic chemicals.  The green
> poles are also smaller in size. So its all about costs.
>
> At least Riley and the Field Operations Beureau (field offices such as
> Atlanta) are trying to get power companies to clean up their lines.  This
> includes the big power companies under say Duke Power and Southern Company
> along with EMC's which as Ron notes are Cooperatives (used to be rural 
> coops
> but are now in the suburbs).
>
> On the issue of ingress Ron is betting that the ham will be addressed 
> first.
> I remember the ham in the Gainesville area that was deemed clean but still
> put on quiet hours.  Is this in our future with BPL??
>
> The ARRL is really pushing the FCC on BPL and my insiders in Washington 
> tell
> me the FCC is getting tired of the ARRL complaints.  They think the ARRL
> should work with the BPL suppliers (as they are now) to find solutions as
> the FCC and the Federal Government plan on pushing BPL no matter what.
> Hopefully notching will get rid of the problems but can they notch
> everything?  What about other users such as Forest Industries and
> Fixed/Mobile?  Even DOD at 5Mhz and 8 Mhz among others have had problems 
> and
> you can bet the FCC is more interested in fixing those problems than hams.
>
> I don't think BPL will go the way of Little Leo's unless the power 
> companies
> can't compete which is a probability.
>
> Dave K4JRB
>
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