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Re: [TenTec] Open wire line

To: Brian Carling AF4K <bcarling@cfl.rr.com>, Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment <tentec@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [TenTec] Open wire line
From: Bwana Bob <wb2vuf@verizon.net>
Reply-to: Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment <tentec@contesting.com>
Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2013 21:54:26 -0500
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Just think how strong his signal would have been if he had installed it the right way!

                73,

                Bob WB2VUF

On 2/13/2013 3:31 PM, Bry Carling wrote:
I worked a guy the other day who was using 300 ohm TV twinlead as a transmitting
feedline to a 70 foot long dipole. The feedline was buried underground,
and it was also running up taoed to a metal mast to the center of the dipole.
All kinds of things that break the "rules of ladderline and hamdom."

I was astonished at what a great signal this guy had!
As Chuck Berry sang: "It goes to show you never can tell."

YMMV
73 de AF4K - Bry
Sanford, FL

On 12 Feb 2013 at 17:14, Edward Feustel wrote:

I have used the open wire and open wire antennas that TrueLadderLine
supplies. Formerly it was distributed by W7FY. The antenna is
supported
by trees at each end.  A rope attached to one end of the antenna
goes
over the tree.  A rope over the other tree is attached to a pulley.
A
rope attached to the antenna goes through the pulley goes to a hefty
counter weight.

I found that the open wire line worked well, but my 210 foot doublet
that they had supplied kept breaking at the center insulator. The
strain
relief simply was not enough for my doublet and the 125 foot of
Dacron
line used to hold the antenna up.

I replaced the horizontal wire with number 10 copperweld and the
center
insulator with a ceramic one. A 30 pound plastic canister of cat
litter
serves as a counter weight but it is not really heavy enough.

Since I replaced the horizontal parts, I have not had any problems
with
winds or ice.

Ed, N5EI

On 2/11/2013 1:16 PM, Rick - DJ0IP / NJ0IP wrote:
Well I think the "true ladderline" looks pretty big and bulky and
ugly and
subject to catching too much wind.

It's very easy to build your own ladderline if you have the right
spreaders.
IMO, the very best there is, and nothing else come even close:
http://www.hfparts.com/eng/products.php
You can see where I used the smallest ones in the pictures of my
shack in
OKC, here: http://www.dj0ip.de/my-station/oklahoma-2010/
Using the small set as I used here, you get about 450 Ohms.
Longer spreaders can give you 600 Ohms or even more.
Take your pick. They come in several sizes.

Outside the shack I spaced the spreaders about 1 ft. apart.
Inside the shack I spaced them about 6" apart.

Although they slip right onto the wires quite easily, they don't
slip off.
Unfortunately I don't think they have a US distributor.
You'll have to order from Germany.

73
Rick, DJ0IP


-----Original Message-----
From: TenTec [mailto:tentec-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of
Andrew
Flessner
Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2013 7:50 PM
To: tentec@contesting.com
Subject: [TenTec] Open wire line

When I considered what I could build for a single multiband
antenna that
would fit on the apartment roof and reading as many sources of
info I could,
including Maxwell, W2DU, I made a 132' doublet fed with 450 ladder
line. I
later changed it to open wire with 4" spacing. It works very well
on 80-6
meters, tuned with my 238 tuner. I do use a Balun Designs 4:1
"tuner balun"
just outside the house with 10 ft of RG-213.

Here are 3 sources for open wire line, there may be others.  I
built the
first because I had most of the parts.
I think the True Ladder Line product probably makes the most
sense based on
price/effort, etc.
Andy K9ARM http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FKGB6qkXs http://www.trueladderline.com/ http://www.73cnc.com/product_p/ls100.htm
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