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RE: Topband: Analog to Digital converter for 1.8MHz

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Subject: RE: Topband: Analog to Digital converter for 1.8MHz
From: "CHARLES HUTTON" <charlesh3@msn.com>
Date: Fri, 02 Jul 2004 21:23:07 +0000
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Right you are - neither the A/D's S/N nor the SFDR will tell you the actual dynamic range. The real number is - as you say - limited to 6 dB per bit given no other factors such as gain control in front of the A/D or other sources of non-linearity and noise.


Chuck




From: Bill Tippett <btippett@alum.mit.edu>
To: topband@contesting.com
Subject: Topband: Analog to Digital converter for 1.8MHz
Date: Fri, 02 Jul 2004 15:14:44 -0400

Chuck wrote:

>The 71.5 dB is actually S/N, not dynamic range. The Spurious Free Dynamic
Range (SFDR) is listed in the spec sheet as 90 dB which is respectable if
not top of the line.

I believe we're mixing apples and oranges. 12-bit ADC resolution is
1 part in 4096 (2^12). This yields 20 log (1/4096) = 72.25 dB theoretical
maximum dynamic range, without any non-linearities elsewhere and without
any auto-ranging attenuators (Rhode & Schwarz technique). A DSP cannot
create any better dynamic range than the ADC feeding it. Somewhere Icom
touted their 24-bit DSP as having 144 dB dynamic range (...true in theory),
but in fact both the Pro2 and 7800 both have close-spaced IMD dynamic range
numbers in the 70's. I recall someone at Ten-Tec saying the dynamic range
of Orion's DSP (which also uses a 24-bit ADC) is in the order of 105 dB
due to system non-linearities, etc, and yet Orion's close-spaced IMD
measures in the mid-90's.


        By the way, has anyone seen measurements of the IC-7800's claimed
"110 dB dynamic range" published anywhere?  I have a feeling this is more
marketing hype from Icom...never to be measured anywhere except in their
advertising copywriter's office.  ;-)

73, Bill W4ZV


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