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Re: [TowerTalk] Rohn Bolts AND nuts - won't mate

To: Stan Stockton <wa5rtg@gmail.com>, StellarCAT <rxdesign@ssvecnet.com>
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Rohn Bolts AND nuts - won't mate
From: Wayne Kline <w3ea@hotmail.com>
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2016 21:51:33 -0500
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IMHO  Rohn knows  what they are doing .
 
the "dimpled " locking  nut  are not a new  
 
Use then in  the   HD  Truck industry for  years  
 
http://www.gatewayfasteners.com/nuts-center-lock-nuts-c-10_854.html?osCsid=gukq364sn8cn4jlif6172kpob1
 
 
 IMH use them and if you feel it my  cause rust a simple can of cold 
galvanizing  for the win ...
 
Wayne W3EA 

 
> From: wa5rtg@gmail.com
> Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2016 20:38:22 -0600
> To: rxdesign@ssvecnet.com
> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Rohn Bolts AND nuts - won't mate
> CC: towertalk@contesting.com
> 
> Gary,
> 
> If I were you, instead of fighting it, I would buy galvanized (tapped 
> oversize) hex nuts and use them instead of the locknuts.  I don't know when 
> they started using locknuts, but for decades they did not use them.  There 
> are thousands of towers installed without locknuts and without problems as a 
> result.
> 
> 73... Stan, K5GO
> 
> > On Jan 25, 2016, at 8:03 PM, StellarCAT <rxdesign@ssvecnet.com> wrote:
> > 
> > Sorry guys – I wasn’t clear ... the issue isn’t the bolt going in the hole. 
> > I have a taper pin and I know how that is done .... the issue is the nut on 
> > the bolt! IT won’t go on. It – the nut, has 3 dimples that Rohn now stamps 
> > in to provide a locking mechanism. But its so aggressive that once the 
> > dimpled part of the nut – the outside of the nut gets to the bolt you’re 
> > done turning at least with the larger bolts. I don’t see how I can turn 
> > this without some form of air wrench and then all the galvanizing is going 
> > to be stripped off! I managed to get the nuts on the small ones in place – 
> > small bolts that is – but it is pretty shiny where the threads are and not 
> > sure there’s a great deal of zinc there. 
> > 
> > Gary 
> > K9RX
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > From: StellarCAT 
> > Sent: Monday, January 25, 2016 5:24 PM
> > To: tower 
> > Subject: Rohn Bolts
> > 
> > I’ve done a good share of towers over the years – all R45 (soon that will 
> > include a 55) ... both new and used ... and I’m starting to put a new tower 
> > up at my new location. This is R45. It is used. I bought new Rohn (yes – 
> > Rohn) bolts and I’ve never had bolts that were SO tight before. These have 
> > a dimple on one side – actually a set of 3. I’m sure it’s a self locking 
> > mechanism. You can’t thread them on at all starting with the dimpled face – 
> > they won’t go – so I’m pretty sure I’m doing it the right way ... the small 
> > bolts went on with lots of effort seeming to strip the galvanizing off the 
> > bolt as they went on .. the large ones don’t want to go much more than when 
> > the dimple gets on to the bolt. 
> > 
> > Is this correct? Should I expect this much effort now with their new bolts? 
> > Boy if one had to put up a good deal of sticks in a day their arms would 
> > feel it at the end of it. Hate to have to haul an air wrench up there :>)
> > 
> > Gary 
> > K9RX
> > 
> > [I called Hill Radio, where I got the bolts, and they called Rohn while I 
> > was on the phone (I didn’t talk to Rohn myself) ... Rohn says yeah they’re 
> > tight but should be doable. They also said I’m probably putting them on 
> > backwards – which isn’t possible as you can’t even thread them on on the 
> > dimple side!]
> > 
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