Seems like every contest someone has to explain this so I guess this is my
turn. A rover can have a maximum of two operators. Those two operators can
do anything. Drive, erect antennas, operate the radios, etc. These two
operators must be the SAME people the entire contest. You can have as many
drivers as you want but a driver can ONLY DRIVE. They can't put up
antennas, operate the radios or even load the radio equipment in the
vehicle. You can swap drivers out as many times as you need. To your
particular case, if the guy on Sunday is going to operate then you can
recruit someone for Saturday as long as they only drive.
73
Jim, W4KXY
It doesn't matter how beautiful your theory is, it doesn't matter how smart
you are. If it doesn't agree with experiment, it's wrong.
Richard P. Feynman
-----Original Message-----
From: vhfcontesting-bounces@contesting.com
[mailto:vhfcontesting-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Steve Piotrowski
Sent: Saturday, April 11, 2009 7:59 AM
To: vhfcontesting@contesting.com
Subject: Re: [VHFcontesting] VHFcontesting Digest, Vol 76, Issue 7
An interesting question came up about 2 op limited rovers in the contests.
I know the rules say you can have a driver.....
but what about switching ops?
I'm in the situation where I will likely be alone on saturday but have a
partner sunday. Can I get a different partner for saturday to fill in? The
log submission will be under my call and I will work both days.
--- On Sat, 4/11/09, vhfcontesting-request@contesting.com
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> 1. WA4ZKO - 144 Mhz Spring Sprint wrap up/soapbox (Jeff
> Thomas)
> 2. Re: WA4ZKO - 144 Mhz Spring Sprint wrap up/soapbox
> (Dan Evans)
> 3. Re: WA4ZKO - 144 Mhz Spring Sprint wrap up/soapbox
> (Jeff Thomas)
> 4. Hams on Twitter? (Jeff Thomas)
> 5. DM02, 100W 6m useful? (Richard Hill)
> 6. Re: DM02, 100W 6m useful? (George Fremin III)
> 7. Re: Hams on Twitter? (Jaime Barcelo)
> 8. Re: Fwiw: Cabrillo Band Designations (Walter - K5EST)
> 9. Re: Fwiw: Cabrillo Band Designations (John Kemker)
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Message: 1
> Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 15:45:38 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Jeff Thomas <wa4zko@yahoo.com>
> Subject: [VHFcontesting] WA4ZKO - 144 Mhz Spring Sprint
> wrap
> up/soapbox
> To: vhfcontesting@contesting.com
> Message-ID:
> <120757.33208.qm@web57207.mail.re3.yahoo.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>
>
> 12 Q's, 9 grids, 6 states, total score 108.
>
> I did better this time around than last year, but neither
> is anything to get excited about. The band seemed to be
> fairly flat, maybe up some to the east and northwest.
>
> Worked KA1ZE/3 Stan from Tolland,CT up at his contest site
> in Pennsylvania (FN01xx) about 420 miles out. This was my
> farthest contact of the evening.
>
> W9GA Ken in Wisconsin (EN53WE) about 361 miles out.
>
> K4QI with a nice signal from North Carolina, FM06 about 350
> miles out.
>
> W8ZN Terry way over in Virgina, FM19bb about 370 miles out.
>
> The continued "silence to the south" is starting
> to worry me. What has happened to the Tennessee stations?
> Admittedly I did more "hunt & pounce" this
> time around, so maybe they were doing the same and we just
> missed each other. I did spend a lot of time listening to
> the south and called during a few spells. There used to be
> several folks routinely active in Tennessee.
>
> The trend of no one on around Lexington and Louisville
> continues. I think I was the only station on in Kentucky! If
> others are on the air contesting, I sure didn't hear
> them! Kind of glad I didn't make the Black Mountain run
> for this one due to weather concerns. With the "silence
> of the south" continuing, probably best that I stayed
> in Northern Kentucky.
>
> It's hard to say for sure if the apparent trend of
> lower activity is something to worry about. When the solar
> cycle is low and 6m is only hopping during "easy
> season" I tend to think a lot of the VHF/UHF weak
> signal folks pursue other interests and forget about the
> VHF/UHF activities. Seems like I remember this trend from
> the 1990's, but it is worrisome. Today the hobby is also
> competing against a never ending deluge of new tech/internet
> "fads" for folks time/interest.
>
>
> 73
> Jeff
> WA4ZKO
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 19:41:44 -0400
> From: Dan Evans <dan.evans@insightbb.com>
> Subject: Re: [VHFcontesting] WA4ZKO - 144 Mhz Spring Sprint
> wrap
> up/soapbox
> To: wa4zko@yahoo.com
> Cc: vhfcontesting@contesting.com
> Message-ID: <49DFD938.9040201@insightbb.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>
> Hi Jeff,
>
> Well, my friend, you doubled my score! Which is fitting
> since you
> likely have at least twice the station as I have, hi hi.
>
> Yes, activity is pretty low in our area. Whatever happened
> to N4GN
> around Louisville? Haven't heard him in a few years.
>
> Also didn't hear K4TO, or N4QWZ. Usually work both of
> them in every
> contest.
>
> Anyway, this was the motivation for kicking off the IN/KY
> 2m SSB net,
> which is going very well. Hopefully this well get some new
> folks
> motivated to stay with weak signal operating.
>
> 73
> Dan
> --
> Amateur Radio Emergency Service, Clark County Indiana.
> EM78el
> K9ZF /R no budget Rover ***QRP-l #1269 Check out the Rover
> Resource Page at:
> <http://www.qsl.net/n9rla> List Administrator for:
> InHam+grid-loc+ham-books
> Ask me how to join the Indiana Ham Mailing list!
>
>
>
> Jeff Thomas wrote:
> > 12 Q's, 9 grids, 6 states, total score 108.
> >
> > I did better this time around than last year, but
> neither is anything to get excited about. The band seemed to
> be fairly flat, maybe up some to the east and northwest.
> >
> > Worked KA1ZE/3 Stan from Tolland,CT up at his contest
> site in Pennsylvania (FN01xx) about 420 miles out. This was
> my farthest contact of the evening.
> >
> > W9GA Ken in Wisconsin (EN53WE) about 361 miles out.
> >
> > K4QI with a nice signal from North Carolina, FM06
> about 350 miles out.
> >
> > W8ZN Terry way over in Virgina, FM19bb about 370 miles
> out.
> >
> > The continued "silence to the south" is
> starting to worry me. What has happened to the Tennessee
> stations? Admittedly I did more "hunt &
> pounce" this time around, so maybe they were doing the
> same and we just missed each other. I did spend a lot of
> time listening to the south and called during a few spells.
> There used to be several folks routinely active in
> Tennessee.
> >
> > The trend of no one on around Lexington and Louisville
> continues. I think I was the only station on in Kentucky! If
> others are on the air contesting, I sure didn't hear
> them! Kind of glad I didn't make the Black Mountain run
> for this one due to weather concerns. With the "silence
> of the south" continuing, probably best that I stayed
> in Northern Kentucky.
> >
> > It's hard to say for sure if the apparent trend of
> lower activity is something to worry about. When the solar
> cycle is low and 6m is only hopping during "easy
> season" I tend to think a lot of the VHF/UHF weak
> signal folks pursue other interests and forget about the
> VHF/UHF activities. Seems like I remember this trend from
> the 1990's, but it is worrisome. Today the hobby is also
> competing against a never ending deluge of new tech/internet
> "fads" for folks time/interest.
> >
> >
> > 73
> > Jeff
> > WA4ZKO
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > VHFcontesting mailing list
> > VHFcontesting@contesting.com
> >
> http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/vhfcontesting
> >
> >
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 18:03:13 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Jeff Thomas <wa4zko@yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [VHFcontesting] WA4ZKO - 144 Mhz Spring Sprint
> wrap
> up/soapbox
> To: vhfcontesting@contesting.com
> Message-ID:
> <402611.30658.qm@web57206.mail.re3.yahoo.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>
>
> Dan,
>
> You know it's bad when you can win your own
> "state" by just making ONE contact, grin! The
> sprints have never been super hot beds of activity, but wow
> activity has clearly been in decline around here for the
> last couple years.
>
> Looking through this, so far I think I'm the only KY
> station (4-lander calls at least):
> http://groups.google.com/group/springsprints/web/144-mhz-logs-received
>
> Here's who I worked:
> W9JDT EM79
> KA1ZE/3 FN01
> WZ8D EM89
> K9ZF EM78
> K9EA EN71
> W9GA EN53
> KB8DDZ EM79
> K4QI FM06
> KF8PO EM79
> W8ZN FM19
> K9LQZ EM68
> W8ULC EM79
>
> K9LQZ struck me as a new one. KF8PO said he was new to the
> scene, good deal there. So I guess there's hope to the
> north. Seems to be more activity from the west up to NW.
> Chicago and Southern Wisconsin area seems to be a lot more
> active than it used to be...which is great! Ohio used to be
> a ton of activity, but was pretty thin Monday night.
> Didn't even work old faithful K8TQK.
>
> I don't know what's happened to K4TO, he used to be
> super active. N4QWZ and N4GN are some of the other
> "MIA" ones that I was talking about. N4GN used to
> be on a lot from down in l-ville. Used to be a good half
> dozen or more Southern KY and TN guys on. N8UM, KG4BMH,
> K1LH, just off the top of my head. I know there's a
> 6-meter net on 50.175 (Tuesday nights?) down on the south
> side of Louisville, haven't checked it lately to see if
> there's still much activity there. N4JOH (think
> that's the call) is another semi-local that I
> haven't heard for ages. Haven't hear a soul up on
> Roan Mtn (NC) in ages. Used to hear 2-3 rovers down in the
> NC/east TN area.
>
> I bet some of those guys have tower/antenna damage. The
> Sept 2008 wind storm and the big ice storm back in February
> probably did a number on many stations down there. I gather
> the ice was really bad down in Western Kentucky and parts of
> TN. My beams were drooping pretty bad from the ice storm,
> but held up fine. I know Rod WG9F took some bad ice damage,
> his main mast was bent over 90 degrees. We didn't get
> the ice storm nearly as bad as the folks on further south.
> May explain some of it, but I think I noticed the decline
> last year.
>
> When is the 2m net and freq? I'll have to try and check
> in, didn't know you were doing it. I'll put it on
> our local mailing list too.
>
> I've got a local that just moved and may get active
> again (AB4WS) once he gets a tower up. Loaned a 6m rig to a
> new ham local (KI4WEF) and trying to get him to jump in on
> the 6m contests/openings. I'm kinda trying to get the
> "locals" together informally on our little mailing
> list and motivate activity/interest as I can versus only
> fussing about it. Thus I can appreciate your efforts on the
> net. Little effort here, little there, talking things up,
> and thanking the rovers are good starts. I think the KYHAM
> list is back up and running, I might sign up and make sure
> to mention upcoming contests from time to time.
>
> Was the first of the spring/summer contests, maybe things
> will pick up as everyone gets back in the contest grove
> around here. Time will tell!
>
>
> 73
> Jeff
> WA4ZKO
>
> Support Ham Radio in Kentucky, get involved, get on the
> air!
> http://twitter.com/wa4zko (ham activity notes & etc)
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/kyaprs/ KY APRS - (KY only)
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/kypacket/ KY Packet Group.
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/hspacket/ High Speed Packet
> Group.
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/425echo/ 444.425+ EchoLink
> Group.
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/nkdxe/ NKDXE KY area
> VHF/UHF DX'ers.
>
>
> --- On Fri, 4/10/09, Dan Evans <x> wrote:
>
> > From: Dan Evans <>
> > Subject: Re: [VHFcontesting] WA4ZKO - 144 Mhz Spring
> Sprint wrap up/soapbox
> > To:
> > Cc: vhfcontesting@contesting.com
> > Date: Friday, April 10, 2009, 7:41 PM
> > Hi Jeff,
> >
> > Well, my friend, you doubled my score! Which is
> fitting
> > since you likely have at least twice the station as I
> have,
> > hi hi.
> >
> > Yes, activity is pretty low in our area. Whatever
> happened
> > to N4GN around Louisville? Haven't heard him in a
> few
> > years.
> > Also didn't hear K4TO, or N4QWZ. Usually work
> both of
> > them in every contest.
> >
> > Anyway, this was the motivation for kicking off the
> IN/KY
> > 2m SSB net, which is going very well. Hopefully this
> well
> > get some new folks motivated to stay with weak signal
> > operating.
> >
> > 73
> > Dan
> > -- Amateur Radio Emergency Service, Clark County
> Indiana.
> > EM78el
> > K9ZF /R no budget Rover ***QRP-l #1269 Check out the
> Rover
> > Resource Page at:
> > <http://www.qsl.net/n9rla> List Administrator
> for:
> > InHam+grid-loc+ham-books
> > Ask me how to join the Indiana Ham Mailing list!
> >
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 18:27:52 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Jeff Thomas <wa4zko@yahoo.com>
> Subject: [VHFcontesting] Hams on Twitter?
> To: vhfcontesting@contesting.com
> Message-ID:
> <987027.30561.qm@web57202.mail.re3.yahoo.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>
>
> Just started tinkering with Twitter myself. Seems more
> usable for ham stuff than FaceBook or MySpace IMHO.
> Admittedly I'm just getting started with a lot of this
> stuff...of which I have varying opinions of (grin).
>
> Guess we would have to be careful how we use it during some
> of the bigger contests. Figure most folks would probably
> want to do two profiles. one personal, then one for ham
> stuff to keep things manageable.
>
> I have the following setup now, VHF/UHF Dx'ers feel
> free to add/follow:
>
> http://twitter.com/wa4zko
>
> The above will pretty much just have ham related
> posts/stuff on it for now.
>
> Hey, since our beloved hobby seems to be competing against
> this "fad" stuff that has the "younger
> folks" so distracted...we might as well use it
> ourselves!
>
>
> 73
> Jeff
> WA4ZKO
>
> Support Ham Radio in Kentucky, get involved, get on the
> air!
> http://twitter.com/wa4zko (ham activity notes & etc)
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/hspacket/ High Speed Packet
> Group.
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/425echo/ 444.425+ EchoLink
> Group.
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/nkdxe/ NKDXE KY area
> VHF/UHF DX'ers.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 5
> Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 18:33:45 -0700
> From: Richard Hill <REHill@ix.netcom.com>
> Subject: [VHFcontesting] DM02, 100W 6m useful?
> To: VHF Contestiong <vhfcontesting@contesting.com>
> Message-ID: <49DFF379.2050208@ix.netcom.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>
> I'm considering a trip to DM02 before and during the
> June VHF contest.
> Would a 100 W effort be useful?
>
> Rich
> NU6T
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 6
> Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 18:36:33 -0700
> From: George Fremin III <geoiii@kkn.net>
> Subject: Re: [VHFcontesting] DM02, 100W 6m useful?
> To: Richard Hill <REHill@ix.netcom.com>
> Cc: VHF Contestiong <vhfcontesting@contesting.com>
> Message-ID: <20090411013633.GA2869@kkn.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>
> On Fri, Apr 10, 2009 at 06:33:45PM -0700, Richard Hill
> wrote:
> > I'm considering a trip to DM02 before and during
> the June VHF contest.
> > Would a 100 W effort be useful?
>
> Yes.
>
> Get a small yagi up 10' or more feet and you will do
> great.
>
>
>
> --
> George Fremin III - K5TR
> geoiii@kkn.net
> http://www.kkn.net/~k5tr
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 7
> Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 21:30:33 -0500
> From: Jaime Barcelo <jaybarcelo@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [VHFcontesting] Hams on Twitter?
> To: wa4zko@yahoo.com
> Cc: vhfcontesting@contesting.com
> Message-ID:
> <7AA1B22A-9BFE-487C-A137-4B56E3762493@gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed;
> delsp=yes
>
> Hi Jeff
>
> I use Twitter a lot, very useful for realtime latest news
> and contact
> with friends.
>
> Follow me on both accounts
> http://twitter.com/np3n
> http://twitter.com/jaybarcelo
>
> Jay Barcelo NP3N
> www.np3n.com
> www.barcelo.us
>
>
> On Apr 10, 2009, at 8:27 PM, Jeff Thomas wrote:
>
> >
> > Just started tinkering with Twitter myself. Seems more
> usable for
> > ham stuff than FaceBook or MySpace IMHO. Admittedly
> I'm just getting
> > started with a lot of this stuff...of which I have
> varying opinions
> > of (grin).
> >
> > Guess we would have to be careful how we use it during
> some of the
> > bigger contests. Figure most folks would probably want
> to do two
> > profiles. one personal, then one for ham stuff to keep
> things
> > manageable.
> >
> > I have the following setup now, VHF/UHF Dx'ers
> feel free to add/
> > follow:
> >
> > http://twitter.com/wa4zko
> >
> > The above will pretty much just have ham related
> posts/stuff on it
> > for now.
> >
> > Hey, since our beloved hobby seems to be competing
> against this
> > "fad" stuff that has the "younger
> folks" so distracted...we might as
> > well use it ourselves!
> >
> >
> > 73
> > Jeff
> > WA4ZKO
> >
> > Support Ham Radio in Kentucky, get involved, get on
> the air!
> > http://twitter.com/wa4zko (ham activity notes &
> etc)
> > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/hspacket/ High Speed
> Packet Group.
> > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/425echo/ 444.425+
> EchoLink Group.
> > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/nkdxe/ NKDXE KY area
> VHF/UHF DX'ers.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > VHFcontesting mailing list
> > VHFcontesting@contesting.com
> >
> http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/vhfcontesting
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 8
> Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 22:17:23 -0500
> From: Walter - K5EST <walter.k5est@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [VHFcontesting] Fwiw: Cabrillo Band
> Designations
> To: w2ev@yahoo.com
> Cc: VHF Contesting eMail Remailer
> <vhfcontesting@contesting.com>
> Message-ID:
> <49f9211e0904102017y143cd76x654187020141b47f@mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
>
> ..
> ..............top reply................
> ..
>
> Ev,
>
> I am all for your efforts to unify us with a simple logger.
> Actually if you
> can put together an easy to use international format then
> maybe it
> could be a reporting standard. Boy, wouldn't that be
> fine....everyone
> on the same program and reports would all look alike. Sure
> would
> make log checking much easier.
>
> Thanks for your efforts.
>
> 73....Walter - K5EST - EM48mu
>
>
>
>
>
> On 4/8/09, Ev Tupis <w2ev@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> > --- On Wed, 4/8/09, Walter - K5EST
> <walter.k5est@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> Yup, I know the 4 meter band is not available for
> us to
> >> use. That is why I was surprised that you were
> even thinking of
> >> putting it in the Cabrillo. To me it is sort of
> "who cares".
> >
> > Great thread, Walter!
> >
> > In fact, I'm thinking in terms of assembling a
> grass-roots effort to
> > supplement CQ's excellent 2-band international
> contest with other contests,
> > but based on km-DX rather than Grid4xQSOpoints.
> >
> > If a simple (read that s-i-m-p-l-e) to use logger can
> be made available to
> > unify our world a little...all the better.
> >
> > In a nutshell...I'm thinking
> "international", with W/VE issues
> > addressed...rather than W/VE specific and
> "cobbled" for the international
> > community.
> >
> > Ev, W2EV
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > VHFcontesting mailing list
> > VHFcontesting@contesting.com
> >
> http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/vhfcontesting
> >
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 9
> Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2009 00:16:36 -0400
> From: John Kemker <john@kemker.org>
> Subject: Re: [VHFcontesting] Fwiw: Cabrillo Band
> Designations
> To: Walter - K5EST <walter.k5est@gmail.com>
> Cc: VHF Contesting eMail Remailer
> <vhfcontesting@contesting.com>
> Message-ID: <49E019A4.8080403@kemker.org>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>
> I've got an idea:
>
> Use XML. Forget the ancient ones who will say that XML was
> considered
> for Cabrillo but not used because it's harder to
> program for. There are
> SO many XML libraries out there that you'd be
> hard-pressed to NOT be
> able to find one for your favorite development environment.
>
> In addition, ADIF is just SO close to XML it makes one
> weep. An XML
> standard based upon the base ADIF tags, but regularized to
> be truly XML
> compliant.
>
> Yes, I'll work on the standards team. I'll even
> contribute an initial
> specification for consideration.
>
> Advantages:
> * Well-understood, standardized syntax
> * Well-supported in a wide variety of programming
> languages/environments.
> * When properly defined, easily understood by humans
> * Supported by Firefox, Microsoft Internet Explorer, Safari
> web
> browsers, among others
> * Extensible, allowing developers and contest committees to
> customize
> within a standardized framework
> * Contest committees can issue an XML template that
> describes the
> logging rules and an application might simply read in the
> XML then use
> that to present the logging form.
>
> Disadvantages:
> * Size. XML-based contest logs will take up more space
> than Cabrillo.
> * Library overhead. Cabrillo doesn't require libraries
> to write logs.
> You could write an MS-BASIC or COBOL program with no
> special libraries
> to log using Cabrillo. (Hmm. I just got a copy of
> OpenCOBOL and have
> been wanting to teach myself COBOL. I think I just figured
> out my
> project to do so...)
> * Installed User Base. Cabrillo is already widely used.
>
> Walter - K5EST wrote:
> > ..
> > ..............top reply................
> > ..
> >
> > Ev,
> >
> > I am all for your efforts to unify us with a simple
> logger. Actually if you
> > can put together an easy to use international format
> then maybe it
> > could be a reporting standard. Boy, wouldn't that
> be fine....everyone
> > on the same program and reports would all look alike.
> Sure would
> > make log checking much easier.
> >
> > Thanks for your efforts.
> >
> > 73....Walter - K5EST - EM48mu
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On 4/8/09, Ev Tupis <w2ev@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> >> --- On Wed, 4/8/09, Walter - K5EST
> <walter.k5est@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Yup, I know the 4 meter band is not available
> for us to
> >>> use. That is why I was surprised that you
> were even thinking of
> >>> putting it in the Cabrillo. To me it is sort
> of "who cares".
> >>>
> >> Great thread, Walter!
> >>
> >> In fact, I'm thinking in terms of assembling a
> grass-roots effort to
> >> supplement CQ's excellent 2-band international
> contest with other contests,
> >> but based on km-DX rather than Grid4xQSOpoints.
> >>
> >> If a simple (read that s-i-m-p-l-e) to use logger
> can be made available to
> >> unify our world a little...all the better.
> >>
> >> In a nutshell...I'm thinking
> "international", with W/VE issues
> >> addressed...rather than W/VE specific and
> "cobbled" for the international
> >> community.
> >>
> >> Ev, W2EV
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
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