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Subject: [AMPS] one-upmanship
From: measures@vc.net (Rich Measures)
Date: Sun, 18 Oct 1998 09:54:09 -0800
>
>At 01:20 AM 10/18/98 -0800, you wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>The amps reflector has been and continues to be a source of useful
>>>information to me.I just wish I had some way of filtering out all this
>>>one-upmanship crap that goes on daily.C'mon guys you know who you are
>>>cut it out please!
>>>Can we start a petition :)
>>>
>>>73 de Conrad G0RUZ
>>
>>This is an unavoidable part of debating, esp. with males.  High power 
>>linear amplifiers are more complex machines than they seem, so there are 
>>bound to be an ample supply of opinions floating about.  .  However, in 
>>time, science, mathematics, and reason will prevail. 
>>-  cheers, Conrad.  
>>
>>
>>Rich...
>
>Hi Rich and Conrad
>
>Yes there is a considerable amount of One-upmanship on this list. Some of
>it productive, while much of it destructive. What is NOT called for is
>personal attack. 

-  I draw one line at fabrication of "information".   For instance, 
during the grate parasitic suppressor debate, one of the combatants tried 
it and got caught red-handed.  I draw another line at double-speak.  
Saying one thing in a public debate and a very different thing in private 
e-mail pisseth me off in no small amount.  

> I have no problem vigorously addressing the remarks of a
>poster or having my remarks treated the same way. I am all for poking fun
>at postings. I would think in the course of civil discourse the
>participants on this list would adhere to one rule. STICK TO WHAT THE GUY
>IS SAYING. 

Amen.  An exception might be a long and winding pattern suggesting an 
agenda.  And, by all means,  stick to the scientific method when trying 
to stick it to those who don't.  

>Yes I know personal attack is a technique used in debate...it's
>usually a sign that you're losing...

- Yea, verily, typically at about three to one odds.    A hasty lampoon 
can easily morph into a boomerang during flight.  

> and guarantees a response inkind. And
>very rarely does personnal attack add anything to the process of resolving
>the proposition at hand. That's my take
>
So it seems, Bob. 

Rich. Measures.  Web site:  www.vcnet.com/measures


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