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Re: [BULK] - Re: [Amps] Why price difference/30S1

To: "Gary Smith" <wa6fgi@sbcglobal.net>,"Steve Katz" <stevek@jmr.com>, "'bob finger'" <finger@goeaston.net>,<amps@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [BULK] - Re: [Amps] Why price difference/30S1
From: "K7RDX" <k7rdx@earthlink.net>
Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2005 12:32:55 -0800
List-post: <mailto:amps@contesting.com>
Hey Gary do you remember the " Dual carb,four speed, hot rod 409? Kinda like
our taste in amps....Some of us could never be happy without building our
own hotrod...Jim K7RDX..
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gary Smith" <wa6fgi@sbcglobal.net>
To: "Steve Katz" <stevek@jmr.com>; "'bob finger'" <finger@goeaston.net>;
<amps@contesting.com>
Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2005 11:32 AM
Subject: Re: [BULK] - Re: [Amps] Why price difference/30S1


I had one, gave it back to its owner with no regrets.  Have talked with
those who restore the Collins war horses such as these, was told the first
thing that is done in the interest of saving someone form pulling out ALL of
their hair is to remove and completely update the relay deck.

To whit: open frame relays manufactured to (Art?) Collins spec by Elgin
watch company? NLA to say the least a long time ago. Start-step current
inrush control relay in a vacuum tube (a good idea long long ago,)
manufactured by Edison electric (this is not a joke) it too NLA.
Keep in mind this is a really good 10db amp that was designed probably in
the late 50's for the military but due to the fact that Art was a ham he
also sold them to those who could afford them.

Fwiw, I have an Ameritron AL800H that will run circles around that 30s-one,
Collins inc. rated it for 600 watt out all day long, (I read this in the
Collins manual that accompanied the amp) while the 800 H, I tune it at an
easy 750 watts on rtty and then go to voice.  It isn't even breaking a sweat
at "legal."  And yes, I have seen a lot more on a dummy load.  But the smell
of hot xmfr oil upsets my cats.

Did have a fine Al-80b, the 800 H is the additional three db beyond  that
which I wanted.  Imho, watts is like the horsepower I had in my `65 GTO: its
there if you want it, but you don't need it all of the time.

Enough from me.  (Actually way too much.)
73,
Gary
WA6FGI




  ----- Original Message -----
  From: Steve Katz
  To: 'bob finger' ; amps@contesting.com
  Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2005 9:47 AM
  Subject: RE: [BULK] - Re: [Amps] Why price difference/30S1


  30S1 = "collector's" amp, actual value is based on collectability, kind of
  like an old MG.

  NTITAI, I should have kept my 1967 Austin-Healy 3000 Mk III.  It never ran
  worth a crap, but I see ones today in lesser condition than mine was
  (purchased used but mint cdx in '69 for $2500) selling at auction for over
  $70,000.  Darn!

  -WB2WIK/6

  -----Original Message-----
  From: bob finger [mailto:finger@goeaston.net]
  Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2005 9:45 AM
  To: amps@contesting.com
  Subject: [BULK] - Re: [Amps] Why price difference/30S1


  And does not include 160, nor does it have fast t/r switching desireable
  today.  Pretty amp tho. 73 bob de w9ge


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