Amps
[Top] [All Lists]

Re: [Amps] LK500 various

To: Gudguyham@aol.com
Subject: Re: [Amps] LK500 various
From: R L Measures <r@somis.org>
Date: Tue, 30 May 2006 10:18:15 -0700
List-post: <mailto:amps@contesting.com>
On May 30, 2006, at 9:29 AM, Gudguyham@aol.com wrote:

> In a message dated 5/30/2006 9:02:24 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
> r@somis.org writes:
>>
>> If you own the abode, plus you have  600v-rated 3-wire romex
>> MEANING YOU HAVE A BLACK,RED, AND WHITE WIRE???
>
>> .
>
> Any home with 3-conductor romex is do-able.
>
> AGAIN, DO YOU MEAN  BLACK,RED, AND WHITE WIRES??
> 3 wire Romex has that, but what do you mean?

White (N), Black (L), Green or Cu (Gnd), standard for 120v circuits.   
For 240v use, the white wire should be marked red at the ends, and  
the Gnd becomes the 240 and 120 N-Gnd.
>
>> I would fasten a 240v 3-wire outlet on the opposite side of the  
>> stud that holds the 120v 3-wire outlet and jumper the Gnd to the N  
>> on the 120v outlet. Also, when the conversion is done, red tape  
>> needs to be wrapped around the ends of the white wire since it  
>> will be carrying 120vac.
> YOU CAN NOT CONNECT THE GROUND(BOND) TO NEUTRAL ...

I guarantee that I can.

> REMEMBER YOU CAN NOT HAVE A BARE WIRE IN A ROMEX CARRRING OTHER  
> THAN "FAULT" CURRENT.

The bare wire in romex is insulated for 600v.
> 3 WIRE MEANING BLACK, RED, AND WHITE?
>
>
> As I see it, having two wires that carry zero current on a 240v  
> circuit is looneytunes.
> HUH? WHAT DO YOU MEAN BY THIS?

In a 4-wire  240v circuit, the ground wire (Grn) as well as the  
neutral wire (Wht) carry zero current.  Red and Blk carry all of the  
current.
>
>> If done, it would be required to replace the separate breakers  
>> with a double pole breaker which has a tie bar between them.
>
> Agreed, and it makes sense.
> MAKES SENSE BECAUSE IT IS CODE!

Makes sense because it is electrically reasonable.  Sometimes the  
Code is, and sometimes it isn't.  As I see it, not requiring a MOV  
across NEC / UL approved switches suggests that whoever wrote the  
present Code needs to take a course in Reactance/Susceptance/ 
Impedance/Admittance.
>
>>
> Good electrical engineering and according to the latest NEC are not  
> necessarily the same thing.
> I DON'T THINK WE WOULD WANT TO PROMOTE ANYONE TO DO ANYTHING THAT  
> IS NOT CODE REGARDLESS OF WHAT WE THINK IS RIGHT OR WRONG.  BEST WE  
> STICK TO THE RULES.

You would make a good Mormon or a good Catholic -- and I,  for damn  
sure, would not.
>
> R L MEASURES, AG6K. 805-386-3734
> r@somis.org
>
>
>
> =
>

R L MEASURES, AG6K. 805-386-3734
r@somis.org



_______________________________________________
Amps mailing list
Amps@contesting.com
http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/amps

<Prev in Thread] Current Thread [Next in Thread>