If you do not get tons of spam perhaps you need to publish a document on how
you do it. You may have a best seller!
To properly control spam there are many options available. More than 90
percent of spam that comes my way is handled by two pieces of software: 1.
spam blocker software at the ISP; 2. spam "catcher" software on my PC.
To eliminate spam is another matter altogether. One method that has been
proposed and rejected is placing a small fee on each and every piece of
email that is delivered. The person billed is the one that sent the email.
Since spammers send huge volumes of email, they would quickly go broke.
However, this plan obviously got a big revolt from persons who don't want to
have free delivery.
Thus, my hypothesis to all this is deal with it. In your case that
apparently means ragging on lists that provide free service. To each his
own.
73, Keith NM5G
-----Original Message-----
From: amps-bounces@contesting.com [mailto:amps-bounces@contesting.com] On
Behalf Of Tony King - W4ZT
Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2006 4:06 PM
To: amps@contesting.com
Subject: Re: [Amps] crying abt spam
Gosh Keith,
Do you think that just because you get tons of SPAM that everyone else
should or if they do they should just sit back and take it? Do you think
that we should make no effort to eliminate SPAM and that list hosts bear no
responsibility for helping in that task?
If so, then perhaps you are the one living in the cave. Come out in the
daylight and smell the roses. In today's world more and more people are
focusing on preserving individual privacy on the net and anyone or any group
that doesn't respect that surely is still living with their Model
32 TTY.
I agree that no matter how hard you try, the thoughtless actions by some
individual that may unintentionally forward something to you in a list that
goes to the world will get you but don't accept that as being OK.
We CAN do something about SPAM and we aren't going to do it by sitting back
and telling ourselves that "it's just the way it is". Google shows about 350
hits for the email address you use on this list. You should check Google for
your office address and then determine how it got out.
A simple address change with notice to those that NEED to know your address
will reduce your SPAM content to zero over night and the rate it builds back
up is directly proportional to how soon that address gets into the wild.
This list and most any list can take measures to prevent subscriber email
addresses from being released to SPAMMERS. I subscribe to several other
lists and NONE of them generate SPAM like this one. This is the ONLY one
that doesn't secure the archives so that subscriber's email addresses can't
be accessed by bots scanning for prospective targets.
Remember, it's not "just an email"... taken in the large doses that they're
being dished out, it is HUGE chunks of bandwidth and EVERYONE pays for that.
73, Tony W4ZT
Keith Dutson wrote:
> Do you guys live in a cave? I get tons of SPAM in my office mailbox
> and I am subscribed to NO lists there.
>
> Don't kid yourself into thinking a list can prevent you from getting
> spammed. The spammers will find you, eventually. Just deal with it!
>
> 73, Keith NM5G
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: amps-bounces@contesting.com [mailto:amps-bounces@contesting.com]
> On Behalf Of Tony King - W4ZT
> Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2006 12:10 PM
> To: amps@contesting.com
> Subject: Re: [Amps] crying abt spam
>
> Hello John,
>
> John Vickers wrote:
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Tony King - W4ZT"
>>
>>> It is hosted by Contesting dot Com.
>> That one sentence says it all.
>
> yes it does
>
> Unless we are charged to participate in this
>> list, it's up to the indivual to use an address he doesn't mind being
>> harvested.
>
> I respectfully disagree with you about this. Most of those that
> participate in this list do so without an expectation of spammers
> harvesting their email addresses. Just because you participate in a
> list doesn't mean you should expect irresponsible handling of your
information.
>
> It's also the senders responsibility to check the address box and
>> see who the heck he's sending mail to. It would also be nice to
>> delete all the thread that doesn't apply to the info your sending.
>
> Agreed
>
> And last but not
>> least--- it'd be good to let the "Host" of this list know we
>> appreciate the use of their site. Perhaps even send a small donation
>> to keep it going. If once in awhile things don't go just right----"be
>> a damn cowboy" don't start whining and crying unless you are paying
>> for
> the service.
>> 73, WA4TT
>
> One of the best ways to show that you appreciate the list is to
> contribute to the list. There is a large gap between showing
> appreciation and having tolerance for irresponsible actions. Those of
> us that participate hope we can contribute something as well as learn
> something in the process. It is good and right to have higher
expectations.
>
> Our ANONYMOUS moderator started the thread.
>
> 73, Tony W4ZT
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