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Re: [Amps] High SWR

To: "'Gary Smith'" <wa6fgi@sbcglobal.net>, <amps@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [Amps] High SWR
From: "Gary Schafer" <garyschafer@comcast.net>
Reply-to: garyschafer@comcast.net
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2009 13:20:30 -0400
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The only thing that high swr on a yagi should tell you is that the feed line
does not match the driven element impedance perfectly.

73
Gary  K4FMX

> -----Original Message-----
> From: amps-bounces@contesting.com [mailto:amps-bounces@contesting.com] On
> Behalf Of Gary Smith
> Sent: Friday, April 24, 2009 12:02 PM
> To: amps@contesting.com
> Subject: Re: [Amps] High SWR
> 
> A comment: I have been told that a high swr on a yagi antenna reduces the
> front to back ratio.  Any truth (facts?) to support this info?
> 73,
> Gary...wa6fgi
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: Gary Schafer
>   To: 'Scott McGrath' ; amps@contesting.com
>   Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2009 9:26 AM
>   Subject: Re: [Amps] High SWR
> 
> 
> 
> 
>   > -----Original Message-----
>   > From: amps-bounces@contesting.com [mailto:amps-bounces@contesting.com]
> On
>   > Behalf Of Scott McGrath
> 
>   > In reality and especially with a tube amplifier and a Pi output tank
> the
>   > antenna system can be brought into resonance at a wide range of
>   > impedances and resonance is what we are looking for and it really is
>   > Antenna System Goodness in MOST cases.    As the reflected power is
>   > definitely real but it is best expressed as the reactive power in a
>   > system which effectively is lost.   With ladder line if long enough
> will
>   > re-radiate some of this 'lost' power.
> 
>   Reflected power is not best expressed as reactive power. It is real
> power
>   and it is not lost power just because it is reflected. when reflected
> power
>   sees the matching network in the final amp or antenna tuner it then gets
>   re-reflected back toward the antenna to be ultimately radiated along
> with
>   the rest of the power. The only "lost power" is that due to the feed
> line
>   loss on both the forward and reflected power.
> 
>   With ladder line the loss is normally very low and very little forward
> power
>   is lost and very little reflected power is lost. There can be very high
> swr
>   (high reflected power) on the line and most all of the reflected power
> will
>   end up getting back to the antenna to be radiated by the antenna.
> 
>   Ladder line will not re_radiate reflected power any more than it will
>   radiate forward power. If the line is well balanced it will not radiate
>   either forward or reflected power that may be on it.
> 
>   73
>   Gary  K4FMX
> 
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