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Re: [Amps] placement of RF choke bypass cap. (Results of experiment)

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Subject: Re: [Amps] placement of RF choke bypass cap. (Results of experiment)
From: "pc5m, Carel" <pc5m@xs4all.nl>
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Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2010 19:11:14 +0100
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Hi Larry,

Could you repeat your experiment with a subtle change: don't drill a hole
through the discs but solder/connect the wire on both sides ? I think it
will change your results. 

Carel.

-----Original Message-----
From: amps-bounces@contesting.com [mailto:amps-bounces@contesting.com] On
Behalf Of Larry Benko
Sent: Saturday, March 20, 2010 5:21 PM
To: dezrat1242@yahoo.com
Cc: amps@contesting.com
Subject: Re: [Amps] placement of RF choke bypass cap. (Results of
experiment)

Here are the results of the experiment:

1.) Dipole was made with #10 bare copper wire each side 12.0" long.
2.) Disks are 2.02" diameter x 0.01: thick copper with hole in center 
for #10 wire.
3.) 8ft. of RG-316 coax with 3 common mode chokes (Z>300 ohms at 200 
MHz)was calibrated at the far end in order to measure actual dipole feed 
point impedance.
4.) Tests were done in my basement with at dipole height of about 3.5' 
and 4-5' of clearance to other objects.

Test #1: Bare dipole
    Fres = 236.20 MHz,  Z = 71.5 + j0  (468/length = 234MHz)

Test #2: Dipole going thru center of disks and soldered with disks 
placed 4.0" both sides of the center of the dipole.
    Fres = 223.55 MHz,  Z = 65.7 + j0

Test #3: Dipole going thru center of disks and soldered with disks 
placed 8.0" both sides of the center of the dipole.
    Fres = 199.01 MHz,  Z = 44.3 + j0

Test #4: Dipole soldered to top edge of each disk with disks placed 8.0" 
both sides of the center of the dipole.
    Fres = 196.89 MHz,  Z = 43.9 + j0

Conclusions:
1.) The difference in frequency between tests #1 and #2 or #3 and #4 do 
NOT allow for the dipole length to be increased by the extra 4" it would 
take if the current went around the disks.

I have pictures if anyone questions my setup etc.

73,
Larry, W0QE

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