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Re: [Amps] HV rectifier strings - to bypass or not?

To: "'Carl'" <km1h@jeremy.mv.com>, "'Jim Thomson'" <jim.thom@telus.net>, <amps@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [Amps] HV rectifier strings - to bypass or not?
From: "Gary Schafer" <garyschafer@comcast.net>
Reply-to: garyschafer@comcast.net
Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2010 21:39:06 -0500
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Are you telling us that you see power line transients across the output of
your 3000 volt power supply?

73
Gary K4FMX

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Carl [mailto:km1h@jeremy.mv.com]
> Sent: Saturday, October 30, 2010 9:15 PM
> To: garyschafer@comcast.net; 'Jim Thomson'; amps@contesting.com
> Subject: Re: [Amps] HV rectifier strings - to bypass or not?
> 
> What mighty spikes? What is the rise time, duration and PRR?
> 
> Have you actually watched a 3000-5000VDC PS on a scope?
> 
> Carl
> KM1H
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Gary Schafer" <garyschafer@comcast.net>
> To: "'Carl'" <km1h@jeremy.mv.com>; "'Jim Thomson'" <jim.thom@telus.net>;
> <amps@contesting.com>
> Sent: Saturday, October 30, 2010 9:51 PM
> Subject: RE: [Amps] HV rectifier strings - to bypass or not?
> 
> 
> > Why not? The output of the rectifiers provide some mighty spikes of
> their
> > own. The capacitors handle it just fine.
> >
> > 73
> > Gary  K4FMX
> 
> 
> 
> 
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Carl [mailto:km1h@jeremy.mv.com]
> >> Sent: Saturday, October 30, 2010 8:44 PM
> >> To: garyschafer@comcast.net; 'Jim Thomson'; amps@contesting.com
> >> Subject: Re: [Amps] HV rectifier strings - to bypass or not?
> >>
> >> You dont want intense line spikes going thru electrolytics.
> >>
> >> Carl
> >> KM1H
> >>
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "Gary Schafer" <garyschafer@comcast.net>
> >> To: "'Jim Thomson'" <jim.thom@telus.net>; <amps@contesting.com>
> >> Sent: Saturday, October 30, 2010 9:28 PM
> >> Subject: Re: [Amps] HV rectifier strings - to bypass or not?
> >>
> >>
> >> > Why place a capacitor across each diode string on a full wave bridge?
> >> The
> >> > filter capacitor is always across the transformer secondary.
> >> >
> >> > 73
> >> > Gary  K4FMX
> >> >
> >> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> >> From: amps-bounces@contesting.com [mailto:amps-
> bounces@contesting.com]
> >> On
> >> >> Behalf Of Jim Thomson
> >> >> Sent: Saturday, October 30, 2010 7:58 PM
> >> >> To: amps@contesting.com
> >> >> Subject: [Amps] HV rectifier strings - to bypass or not?
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> ##  KM1H  came up with a better method... and that's to install one
> HV
> >> >> disc ceramic
> >> >> across each leg.....so 4 x caps in all.    The purpose of these 4 x
> >> caps
> >> >> is to  bypass any
> >> >> junk/transients coming in off the street. Of course the V rating has
> >> >> to
> >> >> be
> >> >> high if a single
> >> >> cap is used.  You can get disc ceramic caps in 4700 pf @  10/15 kv
> >> >> variety.  [ Ceramite brand,
> >> >> sold by mouser+ henry radio still has em].   IF  .01 uf caps [10,000
> >> pf]
> >> >> installed across each diode,
> >> >> and 8 x diodes used, you only have 10,000/8 =   1250 pf  effectively
> >> >> across each leg.  If individual
> >> >> caps used, .02uf @ 1 kv would be better.    IMO... 4 x big caps, one
> >> per
> >> >> leg, is more effective, and
> >> >> messier than 32 x  caps.
> >> >>
> >> >
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