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Re: [Amps] Fwd: Linear Amplifier Tuning---PROPERLY!

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Subject: Re: [Amps] Fwd: Linear Amplifier Tuning---PROPERLY!
From: Commander John <crazytvjohn@yahoo.com>
Date: Sun, 25 Dec 2011 13:34:03 -0800 (PST)
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I fail to see how having spurious sidebands at -20, -30, -40 or whatever makes 
the              
Signal wider.  The sidebands are still there regardless of final suppression 
level. It is the receiving stations receiver having the rejection ability that 
reduces received interference.  Having adjacent sidebands that are stronger 
than necessary causes a receiving station to hear these sidebands at a harmful 
signal strength further away from the transmitted frequency than if they had 
supression at a highter level.  A legal limit station would have much stronger 
IMD because it is stronger not wider.  It only is preceived as wider because 
they are stronger than from a 100 watt transmitter.  
john W9ZY
 
 


> On 12/22/2011 10:32 AM, Frank wrote:
> > I can see how you can improve IMD 2 or 3 db by
> agonizing over the
> > "proper way to tune" but your probably already at 20
> to 30 db IMD to
> > start with.  That 3 db will never be noticed by
> anyone except the fellow
> > looking at the lab equipment.
> 
> IMD in the -30dB range means a LOT of RF trash in your
> sidebands, both 
> from modulation and from the transients of your keying.
> That means 
> you're TOO DAMNED BROAD!  Keeping our signals as clean
> as possible DOES 
> matter.  When your signal is 20 over S9, sidebands
> that are only 30dB 
> down are S7, and prevent me from working guys at that level
> in your 
> sidebands.  Ten dB cleaner means S5. Have any hams as
> neighbors?  How 
> would you like THEM to have -20dB
> sidebands?   I had one, two miles away 
> with a big dirty amp, and he wiped out all of whatever
> phone band he 
> worked a contest, and called CQ ALL the time.  Another
> neighbor, only 
> 0.3 miles away with a clean amp, only burns about 10 kHz.
> 
> 73, Jim K9YC
>
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