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Re: [Amps] Alpha Input SWR

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Subject: Re: [Amps] Alpha Input SWR
From: KA4INM <ka4inm@gmail.com>
Reply-to: ka4inm@gmail.com
Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2015 10:36:21 -0500
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  On 01/10/2015 11:53 PM, KB8NTY wrote:

Sounds like a neat program, thanks for link... however with all due
respect...I'm thinking the "feedline" is not being referenced. It is the
"transmission feedline" the coax that connects the amp to the
transceiver/transmitter, not the coax that runs to the antenna.

Theory is solid, yet real time first hand experiences speak loudly. When
users experience controlled SWR by means of "transmission feedline"
lengths, it's is hard to convince otherwise.
I would think though as has been mentioned there is a dynamic that
exists, by means of use of various transceiver/amplifier's. So what one
finds acceptable, may not work the same for others. /* snip */

  The theory NEVER fails!  The language is frequently wrong.

  The standing wave ratio is the standing wave ratio and it refers only
to the match between any transmission line impedance and it's load's
impedance.  (never anything else)

  What happens when you change the length of the interconnecting feed
line between two amplifiers (100 - 1,000 W) is, you are changing the
impedance transformation caused by transmission line feeding a reactive
load.  Only if a transmission line feeds a load that matches it's surge
impedance and is resistive at all frequencies involved does the input
impedance of the transmission line equal the impedance of the load.
Otherwise an impedance transformation occurs.

  If exactly half wave length (and even multiples) at the one frequency
in use it will repeat the load impedance and reactance, which is very
handy for testing antennas with the test equipment out of the near
field of the antenna.
  If exactly quarter wave length (and odd multiples) at the one
frequency in use it will invert the load impedance and reactance,
which is very handy for feeding extremely high impedance loads such as
the end of a half wave long dipole antenna.
  Any transmission line length between these will transform in ways
between these two lengths.

  If the input impedance of an RF amplifier isn't resistive and many
are, just not a lot of HAM amplifiers and the output impedance of it's
feeding amplifier isn't adjustable the impedance transformation of the
interconnecting cable (unless less than a foot) will effect the load
impedance that the driving amplifier will be.

  A Heath DX-100B could feed a huge range of load impedances and
reactances, a common cathode amplifier with a swamped input can have a
fixed resistive input at all used frequencies, with either the length of transmission line will not be sensitive and you are using neither, you either need a tuner between the two amplifiers set to mimic the effects of that golden length or that (compromise if
multi-band) length of line.
--
  Ron  KA4INM - Youvan's corollary:
                Every action results in unwanted side effects.
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