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Re: [Amps] SG-500 and N8XJK Super Booster

To: timig <timig@tgelectronics.org>
Subject: Re: [Amps] SG-500 and N8XJK Super Booster
From: Larry Dighera <LDighera@att.net>
Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2016 11:47:04 -0700
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Hello Tim,

Thank you for taking the time to respond to my questions.  Very much
appreciated.

I don't know what the duty-cycle of a compressed SSB transmission might be, but
I'm guessing somewhere around 50% or less.  Table 2 on page 149 here:
<https://books.google.com/books?id=fvtXAwAAQBAJ&lpg=PA149> provides two figures
of conversational SSB duty-cycle: 

    20% (no speech processing) 
    40% (heavy speech processing)

So, I believe my application is within the Super Booster's specifications as
you stated. 

The photograph of WA1GZY's mobile installation at the bottom of this page:
<https://www.qrz.com/db/WA1GZY> would appear to confirm that placing the
smoothing capacitor at the Super Booster's input is the right place to connect
it.

I appreciate your admonition to limit the Super Booster's output to 14 volts,
the specified input voltage of the SG-500.  I have read of other operators
powering the amplifier with 18 volts to increase power output, but the limited
increase in power this practice may provide (maybe ~100 watts additional) is
probably not worth the stress it will impose on the Super Booster or the
solid-state amplifier.  

Thank you again for your support.

Best regards,
Larry
WB6BBB


On Fri, 9 Sep 2016 13:18:01 -0500 (EST), timig <timig@tgelectronics.org> wrote:

>Hello Larry,
> 
>The Super Booster will do the job as long as you don't draw 40amps continuous.
>  The booster can handle the 40amps at 50% duty cycle.  I wouldn't run it over
>14volts output either.
> 
>I would put the 2 farad cap before the booster.  Having after the booster will
>make the booster work harder.
> 
>I hope this helps,
> 
>Tim
>
>> On September 9, 2016 at 10:32 AM Larry Dighera <LDighera@att.net> wrote:
>>
>> Has anyone experience using the N8XJK Super Booster
>> <http://stores.tgelectronics.org/the-n8xjk-super-booster/> with an SG-500
>> linear amplifier? The battery booster is rated at 40 amps and 16 volts
>> maximum.
>>
>> The SG-500 is rated for an input voltage of 14 VDC and an input ranger of 10
>> to
>> 18VDC: <http://www.sgcworld.com/ampProductPage.html>. Has anyone attempted to
>> run the SG-500 at 18VDC? Can the booster do that without issues?
>>
>> Is the booster able to deal with the rapidly fluctuating 40 amp load the
>> SG-500
>> creates during SSB output?
>>
>> What is the optimal location to connect a 2 farad smoothing capacitor, at the
>> SG-500's power terminals, or at the power input to the battery booster?
>> Intuitively, I would think the amplifier's power input would be best, but
>> thought it couldn't hurt to inquire.
>>
>> Has anyone experienced timing issues between the booster's RF enable trigger
>> and the amplifier output?
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Larry
>> WB6BBB
>Timothy Gerdeen
>T.G. Electronics
>54677 Canal Rd.
>Houghton, MI 49931
>Ph:906 487-9063
>Cell: 906 370-5031
>Website: http://www.tgelectronics.org
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