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Re: [Amps] Tubes, transistors, and 'abuse'

To: Manfred Mornhinweg <manfred@ludens.cl>
Subject: Re: [Amps] Tubes, transistors, and 'abuse'
From: MU 4CX250B <4cx250b@miamioh.edu>
Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2017 12:42:29 -0600
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Ah, Wise move on your part, Manfred. I wouldn't wear it either! Your
former boss needed higher level Technical Support!
Jim

Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 11, 2017, at 12:39 PM, Manfred Mornhinweg <manfred@ludens.cl> wrote:
>
> Jim,
>
>> Manfred, I think  you are worrying needlessly. A grounding wrist strap 
>> connects to the mat, not to the device under test. ESD mats typically have a 
>> resistance in the 10E7-10E8 ohm range. The mat on my workbench has a 
>> resistance too high to measure with my Fluke 87-V. The mats discharge static 
>> buildup, but neither they nor the wrist strap pose any safety hazard.
>
> Fine then. But the straps that one boss at the job wanted me to wear were all 
> metal. Indeed they connected to the mat - but to a metal frame surrounding 
> the static dissipative (highly resistive) material, and that frame was 
> grounded. In the end, that wrist strap was grounded with a very low 
> resistance, and I refused to wear that, for safety reasons.
>
>> I have lost MOSFETS from not taking adequate ESD measures. Some of the older 
>> devices, especially, are very easily burned out.
>
> There are some that don't have the built-in zener protection - those are 
> indeed fragile. Laser diodes (or rather their built-in photodiodes, I think) 
> are also said to be very sensitive to static. I have handled such devices 
> with no more precautions than the basic ones, and never lost any.
>
>> There's a reason all semiconductor distributers (Mouser, Digikey, etc.) pack 
>> their components in ESD envelopes!
>
> Yes, and that's actually a good thing to do, and I do it too, when I ship 
> something sensitive. My fundamental point instead is that thoughtlessly used 
> grounding straps and the like can CAUSE more risk to the parts than they help 
> prevent! I have seen people who put on such a grounding strap, next to their 
> static-safe workbench, and then think that nothing bad can happen. Then they 
> reach over to a drawer and withdraw a MOSFET by the gate terminal, and !ZAP!, 
> they discharge the entire drawer through that MOSFET! My practice instead is 
> to first get hold of the drawer, to put myself at its potential, then pick up 
> the MOSFET by anything but its gate terminal, then walk over to my desk, 
> touch the desk, then place the MOSFET on it. In doing so, I have already 
> double safety in it: By avoiding to touch the gate first, and by equalizing 
> the potential between myself, the desk, the MOSFET, and anything else, in a 
> safe way.
>
> Most of this caution exceeds what's needed, but as you say, it's smart to be 
> careful. And I would add that it's good to be smart! In the sense of thinking 
> where static charges will form, what can be charged relative to what, which 
> items could carry significant leakage current, and so on, and then acting 
> accordingly. That's much safer than using a mat, a strap, and stopping to 
> think about the matter, which is what I have witnessed some people doing!
>
> Manfred
>
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