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Re: [Amps] Ferrite Core for 160M PI Output ?

To: "Jim Thomson" <jim.thom@telus.net>, <amps@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [Amps] Ferrite Core for 160M PI Output ?
From: "Carl" <km1h@jeremy.qozzy.com>
Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2017 15:40:01 -0400
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----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Thomson" <jim.thom@telus.net>
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Subject: [Amps] Ferrite Core for 160M PI Output ?


Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2017 14:09:05 -0700
From: Paul Baldock <paul@paulbaldock.com>
To: "Amps group" <amps@contesting.com>
Subject: [Amps] Ferrite Core for 160M PI  Output ?
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<When I said Ferrite I should really have said Toroidal so as to
include Iron Powder.

- Paul




What's the best PI Output Ferrite Core(s) to use for a 1.5KW tube amp?

Thanks

- Paul
KW7Y

##  Powdered Iron.   #2  MIX.   These are the RED ones.
T225-2B.   Beware, the T225-2A  is only .5 inch thick ...
IE  laying on the table with hole pointed at the  ceiling,  its
.5 inch tall.

## The T225-2B is a full 1 inch thick. You require at least 2 of them
for  1.5 kw out for cw  and  ssb.    For RTTY, you require 3 of them.

##  these have been in use since the 70s..for  160 + 80m.

##  I think marv calculated the heat at aprx 57 watts of diss, regardless
of how many core are used.   They run hot..normal.

## If 3 used, the entire mess ends up being 2.25 inch OD x 3 inches long.
Bigger OD and length, once the wire is wound onto them.
I found some air dux..which used 12 or 14 gauge wire.... and had the turns spaced closer than normal air dux. Worked perfect for the 160M conversion project I was working on. Zero heat vs the stack of torroids. The air dux weighed nothing vs the hefty weight of the 3 stack I also tried. The airdux
ended up being aprx the same diam and length as the torroid stack.

## space wide, the torroid stack save me nothing. 160m is pretty forgiving,
with long leads, coil close to cabinet side walls etc.

Jim   VE7RF



** The T225-2B is sometimes hard to source so a pair of the A version is equivalent. A pair of the more common T200-2A or 2B is what was used in most amps. Ive run two 200-2A's on 160 for about 30 years in a modified NCL-2000 without problems at 1200W including AM. Dont forget to wrap each one with a layer of Scotch 27 HV tape and then wrap the stack before winding. I also used #14 stranded Teflon wire as that was what I found on a big reel at a scrap dealer.

Carl

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