In a message dated 98-01-06 12:42:26 EST, jerry@ut4uz.isf.kiev.ua writes:
> Is there any news on WRTC-2000???
> Just curios, since I'm going to move...
Yes! The WRTC2000 will be held in beautiful Slovenia and sponsored by
Tine, S50A, and all the contesting boys. Here's a tentative schedule from
Tine:
>>> A very rough schedule of the events should be as follows:
Wednesday, July 12th
arrival to 4 P.M. picnic at RIBNO close to Bled castle from 4 to
10 P.M.
Thursday, July 13th
visit of Postojna cave and LIPICA (horses) 9.30AM to 4.30PM
Alternative: visit of Ljubljana (the capitol)
Meeting with teams and determinations of locations, judges and
escort members at 5.30 PM
Opening ceremonial of the wrtc-2000 at 7.30PM
Social event- meeting 8 PM
Friday, July 14th
Indoor tape competition (PILE UP tape) for all competitors. 8 AM
Last information and departure to the locations at 1PM (it will
happen that in some cases the judges and competitors will stay at
a contest location until the end of the contest)
Saturday, July 15th
Departures to contest sites 9AM
Start of the contest 2PM
Sunday, July 16th
Contest finish 2PM
Everybody is back to Bled by 7PM
Dinner on Bled lake island
Monday, July 17th
Visit of some places (good food, wine): 9 AM to 2 PM
Closing ceremony: 7PM
There is enough room for all the participants and visitors in
the town of Bled where all non-contest happenings will take place.
There are enough conference rooms and other facilities. BLED is a
very nice touristic place just below the Alps in Northern Slovenia.
More details about rooms, reservations, prices etc, will follow
later. >>>
There'll be a web page in the near future and more information as we get
closer. Start saving your allowance - this is going to be the BIGGEST PARTY IN
THE HISTORY OF HAM RADIO CONTESTING! Don't miss it.
73, Steve K7LXC
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>From patd@wolfenet.com" <patd@wolfenet.com Tue Jan 6 18:08:44 1998
From: patd@wolfenet.com" <patd@wolfenet.com (Patrick Dayshaw)
Subject: [CQ-Contest] "Worked Before" stupidities and Post Contest Actions
Message-ID: <01BD1A8B.3BE3C0C0@patd@wolfenet.com>
Nice thread on approaches to the WRKB4 issue. I would like
to make a few comments and base them on the article
"Contest Rules in Plain Language" by KR2Q in the May/June
1996 issue of NCJ (National Contest Journal), Vol. 24, Num.
3. As a member of the CQ Contest Committee Doug (KR2Q) has
a great perspective on the rules and their intent. His
article addresses the WRKB4/DUPES issue as well as several
of the suggestions/options on dealing with it that have
been made by writers in this thread as follows:
Regarding DUPES he says "As for dupes, don't forget, just
because you may have it as a dupe doesn't mean the other
guy does.... Don't worry about filling up your log with
zero-point QSOs; others depend on it!" in another section
he states "Log all QSOs, whether or not they turn out to be
dupes or own-country QSOs. Apply zero points, but log it!
Other operators depend on it." Seems clear that working the
dupes is the way to go.
I did however noticed several suggested "solutions/options"
in this thread that seem a little questionable. Since I'm
not interested in starting a flame-war I'll just quote the
suggestions without the referenced calls and ask if these
are really things that the community considers valid. Again
I'm basing my questions on KR2Qs article and his very
detailed "plain language" explanation of the rules.
Writer Number 1 states: "D) Listen to your CW. Many of us
have copied 6Y as BY for entire
weekends. It's what was being sent (I love my old reel to
reel tape
machine)." and then "E) Review your log for obvious
boo-boo's."
Item "D)" above is addressed in an entire section titled
"Tape Recording the Contest". Doug explains why this should
not be done. He explains in detail and provides examples of
just that scenario, i.e. "It's what was being sent". He
clearly explains why "the contact doesn't count". Perhaps
most telling is the statement "By leisurely copying the
tape recording post-contest in any segment(s) other than
one 48-hour shot, you are removing at least two vital
components of the contest: staying accurate despite lack of
sleep, and competing under the same (or similar) stress
factors during the same period. You are also providing
yourself with the ability to judge your effort and make
decisions that could allow you to alter your score as
compared to someone who does not record the contest".
In Item "E)" above hopefully the suggestion is NOT being
made that in the Post-Contest phase the log be changed to
reflect the fact that the 6Y was incorrect (discovered via
the tape recording) and then the log was corrected from the
BY entry. KR2Q addresses these changes as cheating and
fraud, plain and simple and again provides detailed
examples. He states in part "...What you enter into your
log during the contest cannot be changed, no matter how
obvious an error it is." He explains what "post-contest
housekeeping" really means and very clearly states that
"cleaning your log" is cheating.
Writer Number 2 among other suggestions states "2. Convince
the station to remove the first qso(one way) mark the qso
as the good one and remove the original after the test."
Again according to KR2Qs article this is not allowed. He
says "Don't prepare QSOs before the contest and don't alter
QSOs after the contest."
His final sentence sums it up it up nicely... "I hope this
article encourages further discussion about the rules and
how they can be defined, and that a positive reaction by
the readers will result in an accepted method to provide a
uniform understanding of the game."
Really great article that should remove all doubt about how
to deal with the dupe "problem".
Patrick
WA7VNI
patd@wolfenet.com
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