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Subject: [CQ-Contest] Dupes?
From: k2av@contesting.com (Guy Olinger, K2AV)
Date: Mon Jan 7 22:53:39 2002
I am afraid it will be a LONG time before hamdom finally realizes that
they are now supposed to work dupes and leave them in the log. The old
paper log rules are just too ingrained. And then you will have to wait
until all the ancient or freebee versions of various logging programs
are upgraded in the hamshacks to match.

Next time tell the guy who won't work you that his not working you
just cost him FOUR QSO's because he's not in your log and he's going
to get his NIL QSO bounced and penalized three more.

About the only time that penalty business makes me happy.

73, Guy.

----- Original Message -----
From: "John Devoldere" <john.devoldere@pandora.be>
To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 11:00 AM
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Dupes?



Dear fellow contesters,

I know recently there was a controversy going on on the reflector a
bout =
dupes. I did not follow it. I thought it was clear and simple to all =
reasonable people: if someone calls you, and he shows up as a dupe in
=
YOUR log, you work him. Anyhow the guy who calls you has a good reason
=
to call you: either you are NOT in his log (maybe he has an error in =
your call), or he does not have a log, and wants to work you, has a
poor =
memory etc etc. One thousand good reasons. If he has no log, of if he
is =
old and forgets things, or if he is just a pain you know where, you
CAN =
of course say "worked before" and carry on. But if he really wants to
=
work you, he will call you again, and ask for a QSO. Now you can do
two =
things, work him "again" , which means make him happy (AND make sure
you =
ahve a GOOD QSO in YOUR log), and have the situation cleared in 30 =
seconds, or start arguing. Don't forget you are in a contest... TIME =
IS... POINTS.

It happened twice to me during the ARRL RTTY roundup. One station
(N4B.) =
says "worked before". I come back and tell him "you are not in MY
log". =
This was on 20 meters. He may have OT2T in his log, but it is
important =
for him that OT2T has him in his log, which was NOT the case. Well, to
=
make a long story short, he repeatedly refused to work OT2T. OT2T
called =
him again and again to no avail. Well, anyhow, N4B. is not in OT2T's
log =
on 14 MHz, and ARRL be informed that if they find OT2T in N4B.'s log
on =
20, it is a fictive QSO. I spend minutes to try to help him, and make
=
sure HE has a good QSO in his log, and he refused. He'd rather have an
=
imaginary QSO in his log! I cannot understand why he simply did not
want =
to make a so-called dupe QSO, just to make sure. No penalties for
that!=20

Until later the same day, I worked another station (SM3ET.) who also =
said "QSO before" Same story, he was not in MY log. I had a NICE =
conversation with him, and eventually he said " I CANNOT WORK YOU
AGAIN =
WHEN YOU ARE ALREADY IN MY LOG, MY LOGGING PROGRAM MAKES IT =
IMPOSSIBLE...". I was flabbergasted. So I did not work SM3ET. , and =
SM3ET. did not work me... That's the end of the story.=20

It is possible that someone writes such a stupid program that makes it
=
impossible to log someone twice on the same band? Anyhow, the super =
contest logging program that I use (Writelog) allows it !=20

Moral of the story: work what are dupes in your eyes. Ask no
questions. =
It is fastest. And . use a good logging program.

What say?=20

Have fund and.. happy contesting to all!=20

73, John, ON4UN, OT2T (this year)

T


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