UA9CIR is absolutley right, let´s deal with the problem why people
do work dupes.
If we just don´t care at all and just work whatever calls us no matter
how many times we don´t do anything about the original problem instead
we just bypass it.
Forexample, usually the logging program will pop up the first QSO and
with that info you can pritty quick check with the guy if he can find you
at that specific time. Sure it might take 2 seconds longer then just working
him but maybe it might learn a few to be more careful in the future. Usually
they will find the previous QSO, just a few will not find anything and then
you simply just work him.
73, Jim SM2EKM
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Guy Olinger, K2AV wrote:
>It takes a particular state of mind to extend
>
> "Something should be allowed"
>
>to
>
> " Something will be done over and over and over and over...."
>
>The truth is that NOBODY that I know just wants to work the same guy
>over and over on the same band just because dupes are now allowed. In
>the CQWW at NY4A, there was one fellow, known to every op at NY4A, who
>was the ONLY, I repeat ONLY multi-dupe in the log. He appeared not to
>understand "QSO B4" or the equivalent in the language that went with
>his call sign.
>
>My logging program tells me if I have someone already in the log. I
>DON'T want to work him again. He's a DUPE. It's wasted time.
>
>When I do call someone and I'm in as a dupe in his log, there is a
>DIFFERENCE OF OPINION as to whether I'm a dupe. What the procedure is
>now, is that you should complete the contact in favor of the fellow
>that says the QSO is not in the log. That's COURTESY, not EXCESS.
>
>THE RULES HAVE CHANGED. DEAL WITH IT.
>
>73, Guy.
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Mike UA9CIR" <lab3@ekb.ru>
>To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
>Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2002 4:01 AM
>Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Dupes?
>
>
>
>Good morning,
>
>K2AV wrote:
>
>>I am afraid it will be a LONG time before hamdom finally realizes
>>
>that
>
>>they are now supposed to work dupes and leave them in the log.
>>
>
>I hope this will never happen.
>>From the recent postings, we (especially the younger ops) learned
>that
>working dupes is not a bad thing at all.
>We learned that working all dupes is a good thing because if you don't
>work him it may cost you triple penalty.
>Never say "QSO B4" - just work him, otherwise it will cost you a lot
>if
>he does not call you any more.
>Nothing wrong in calling CQ on top of someone else, some of the
>callers
>will not put you in the log, no problem - you'll work them again
>later.
>Because if u don't - it may cost you 4 QSO.
>If you hear a multiop station, call them as many times as you can -
>their enjoyment is not complete if you don't work each operator.
>
>etc. etc, a lot has been said how to work dupes, but very little how
>NOT to make them. This is strange because one good QSO takes less time
>than two QSOs (one good and one bad). And no penalty involved.
>Besides, the contest goal is to QSO as many different stations as
>possible, not to QSO the same stations as many times as possible.
>
>If we lower operating standards we may get more inexperienced ops
>which will result in more dissatisfied ops leaving the hobby and in
>lower totals and degradation in the long run.
>
>73 Mike UA9CIR
>
>
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