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Re: [CQ-Contest] Here we go again

To: "Russell Hill" <rustyhill@earthlink.net>,"Joe Subich, K4IK" <k4ik@subich.com>, <dezrat1242@ispwest.com>
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Here we go again
From: "ak0a" <ak0a@kc.rr.com>
Reply-to: ak0a <ak0a@kc.rr.com>
Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 11:27:43 -0600
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Tower heights and skill has nothing to do with comparison. When I hear a SO2R calling CQ on two different bands at the same time and working stations at the same time, there is something wrong with the SO2R. with a separate category they can call each other until the cows come home

----- Original Message ----- From: "Russell Hill" <rustyhill@earthlink.net>
To: "Joe Subich, K4IK" <k4ik@subich.com>; "'ak0a'" <ak0a@kc.rr.com>; <dezrat1242@ispwest.com>
Cc: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Monday, November 29, 2004 11:07 AM
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Here we go again



Joe, you echo my argument I circulated on Friday about tower height, and you have probably stated it better than I. Thank you for supporting the viewpoint. If we can get enough serious contesters to consider the idea, maybe we can get some admittedly arbitrary height limitation which will encourage the little pistols to improve their low antenna station, knowing they will not always be blown out by someone with 200' towers and multi-stacks in the "same category". If we categorize on the basis of number of ops, number of transmitters, and power out, why do we not recognize that the capability to put up antennas of the "giant" variety are a major determinant of a station's ability to compete?

I would like very much to see a discussion started. I think this is the only way we can get increased participation on a large scale.

73, Rusty, na5tr


----- Original Message ----- From: "Joe Subich, K4IK" <k4ik@subich.com>
To: "'ak0a'" <ak0a@kc.rr.com>; <dezrat1242@ispwest.com>
Cc: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Monday, November 29, 2004 10:12 AM
Subject: RE: [CQ-Contest] Here we go again




From: ak0a

I agree with you Bill. the only people who are against this
are the SO2R ops. Why? I cant figure out. What are they scared of?

You are 100% dead wrong ... I do not do SO2R but have absolutely no problem understanding that a better equipped station with a more proficient operator might choose to have a second rig on one band looking for mults, checking propagation, etc. while running on a different band. It has been that way for at least the nearly 30 years that I have been around the contest game and only for the last few of those years has the chorus been "discriminate against the elite stations!"

If you are arguing for separate categories, then a separate category
for towers over 22 meters and multiple antennas per band should be
implemented long before a separate category for SO2R.

In truth, competing against the big antenna stations is far more
frustrating to the bulk of the "vertical and wires or A3 on the roof"
stations than competing against someone with a trap vertical
connected to the second receiver input on his FT-1000D or a "Windom"
in a tree connected to an older [second] transceiver.  A station can
gain far more by improving antennas than can ever be gained by adding
SO2R.  Only when one has optimized the antenna system does SO2R add
significantly to the score.

73,

... Joe, K4IK


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