Mal,
If I understand you correctly, you assume that someone is cheating if they
work you after you were spotted? How far after a spot do you extend that
belief? Is it a "within x minutes after a packet spot everyone I work is a
cheater" thing?
How do you know that the person did not just happen to tune by or perhaps
might hear the mini-pileup that sometimes results from a packet spot and
stop to work you?
I would like to understand how you reach this type of conclusion.
73,
Bob W5OV
-----Original Message-----
From: N7MAL [mailto:N7MAL@CITLINK.NET]
Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2005 2:10 AM
To: Ken Widelitz; Cq-Contest Reflector
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Domestic Contest Spots/Cheating
What an interesting posting Ken. In a single posting you validated what I
said about my participation in the contest and the fact that I had been
spotted several times on the cluster. You then proceeded to make the
majority of the rest of your posting about you and your effort.
Unfortunately and sadly, very sadly, Ken you managed to get some facts
mixed-up. Because you got your facts mixed-up I am going to show you, and
others, exactly how well I have last years SS documented.
N2IC Steve in New Mexico posted this information:
W6ZZZ 3563.1 N7MAL 0430 07 Nov 2004
It is a copy of a spot during the SS showing at 0430Z W6ZZZ spotted me on my
run freq.
At 0436Z I worked K6LA on 3563, he sent me number 628 and I sent K6LA my
number 262.
Ken submitted his log as a 'B'(single op).
Ken in his own words claimed to have not worked me.
Yet he did work me and worked me a few minutes after I was spotted, what an
amazing set of coincidences...!!...(also the QSO is confirmed on LOTW) I
never did any S&P on 75m only a run freq.
I'm not accusing Ken of anything. Ken has been around a long time and is an
excellent contester. He shows up in my master logbook 15 times in many
various and different contests since the year 2000. He doesn't need packet
spots to find and work me 300 miles away. OOOORRRR
This is exactly why I won't publish names and
callsigns........................................
MAL N7MAL
BULLHEAD CITY, AZ
http://www.ctaz.com/~suzyq/N7mal.htm
http://geocities.com/n7mal/
Don't worry about the world coming to an end today.
It's already tomorrow in Australia
----- Original Message -----
From: Ken Widelitz
To: Cq-Contest Reflector
Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2005 1:57
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Domestic Contest Spots/Cheating
Mal, N7MAL, complained about being worked by stations in the single op
category after his station was spotted in SS & NAQP. In his post he stated
"If it happened once, or maybe even twice, it might be coincidence but
over
several contests it is no longer coincidence but cheating."
While watching the Angels/White Sox game I compiled the following
statistics
from 2001 - 2005 regarding ALL of N7MAL's reported operations from the
ARRL
web site, the CQ-CONTEST 3830 archives and DX Summit:
YEAR/Contest QSOs Spots
04 CW SS 477 5
03 CW SS 309 3
02 CW SS 367 3
01 PH SS 77 0
01 CW SS 220 0
05 CW NAQP 360 1
04 CW NAQP 492 1
I would note the following:
1. In each contest I made considerably more QSOs and was spotted fewer
times. Why is this significant? Because, especially in SS, and especially
on
Sunday, "new blood" is much desired. I know I am constantly tuning the 2nd
radio looking for "new blood." Every serious SS competitor is doing the
same
thing. Given, generally, in the last few years only 2 bands have
significant
activity, if you are SO2R, you are tuning just one band. You will find a
new
station relatively quickly without cheating.
2. If I hear a pileup - or see one on the bandscope, it attracts my
attention, without the use of packet.
3. There is a category of Unlimited in SS. That is a single op assisted
category. It is becoming more popular and those single ops DO get to jump
on
packet spots legally. Spots of "new blood" gets attention from this
category.
4. The sample size of spots about which N7MAL is complaining is VERY
small.
However, given the small sample size, if the same single op station worked
N7MAL in 2002, 2003 and 2004 within a few minutes of his being spotted, it
would raise my eyebrows.
5. In checking my own logs, I see I worked N7MAL in 2001 when he had zero
spots. I didn't work N7MAL in 2002, 2003 or 2004. Guess I wasn't tuning
the
2nd radio hard enough.
73, Ken, K6LA / VY2TT
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