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Re: [CQ-Contest] Domestic Contest Spots/Cheating

To: N7MAL <N7MAL@CITLINK.NET>
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Domestic Contest Spots/Cheating
From: <korey.chandler@us.army.mil>
Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2005 18:37:52 +0300
List-post: <mailto:cq-contest@contesting.com>
Your example in no way shows cheating.

How do you PROVE any cheating? You can't. You won't provide other examples 
because your claims will probably prove to be just as erroneous or 
circumstantial.

Put your money where your email is, Mal. Back up your assertation of cheating 
with all your evidence.

73,

Korey
YI9VCQ/KA5VCQ
Baghdad, Iraq

----- Original Message -----
From: N7MAL <N7MAL@CITLINK.NET>
Date: Thursday, October 13, 2005 10:10 am
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Domestic Contest Spots/Cheating

> What an interesting posting Ken. In a single posting you validated 
> what I said about my participation in the contest and the fact 
> that I had been spotted several times on the cluster. You then 
> proceeded to make the majority of the rest of your posting about 
> you and your effort.
> Unfortunately and sadly, very sadly, Ken you managed to get some 
> facts mixed-up. Because you got your facts mixed-up I am going to 
> show you, and others, exactly how well I have last years SS 
> documented.N2IC Steve in New Mexico posted this information:
> W6ZZZ      3563.1 N7MAL                                     0430 
> 07 Nov 2004
> It is a copy of a spot during the SS showing at 0430Z W6ZZZ 
> spotted me on my run freq.
> 
> At 0436Z I worked K6LA on 3563, he sent me number 628 and I sent 
> K6LA my number 262.
> Ken submitted his log as a 'B'(single op).
> Ken in his own words claimed to have not worked me.
> Yet he did work me and worked me a few minutes after I was 
> spotted, what an amazing set of coincidences...!!...(also the QSO 
> is confirmed on LOTW)
> I never did any S&P on 75m only a run freq.
> 
> I'm not accusing Ken of anything. Ken has been around a long time 
> and is an excellent contester. He shows up in my master logbook 15 
> times in many various and different contests since the year 2000. 
> He doesn't need packet spots to find and work me 300 miles  away.  
> OOOORRRR
> This is exactly why I won't publish names and 
> callsigns........................................
> MAL         N7MAL
> BULLHEAD CITY, AZ
> http://www.ctaz.com/~suzyq/N7mal.htm
> http://geocities.com/n7mal/
> Don't worry about the world coming to an end today.
> It's already tomorrow in Australia
>  ----- Original Message ----- 
>  From: Ken Widelitz 
>  To: Cq-Contest Reflector 
>  Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2005 1:57
>  Subject: [CQ-Contest] Domestic Contest Spots/Cheating
> 
> 
>  Mal, N7MAL, complained about being worked by stations in the 
> single op
>  category after his station was spotted in SS & NAQP. In his post 
> he stated
>  "If it happened once, or maybe even twice, it might be 
> coincidence but over
>  several contests it is no longer coincidence but cheating."
> 
> 
>  While watching the Angels/White Sox game I compiled the 
> following statistics
>  from 2001 - 2005 regarding ALL of N7MAL's reported operations 
> from the ARRL
>  web site, the CQ-CONTEST 3830 archives and DX Summit:
> 
>  YEAR/Contest      QSOs     Spots
> 
>  04 CW SS            477            5
>  03 CW SS            309            3
>  02 CW SS            367            3
>  01 PH SS              77             0
>  01 CW SS            220            0
> 
>  05 CW NAQP        360            1
>  04 CW NAQP        492            1
> 
> 
>  I would note the following:
> 
>  1. In each contest I made considerably more QSOs and was spotted 
> fewer  times. Why is this significant? Because, especially in SS, 
> and especially on
>  Sunday, "new blood" is much desired. I know I am constantly 
> tuning the 2nd
>  radio looking for "new blood." Every serious SS competitor is 
> doing the same
>  thing. Given, generally, in the last few years only 2 bands have 
> significant  activity, if you are SO2R, you are tuning just one 
> band. You will find a new
>  station relatively quickly without cheating.
>  2. If I hear a pileup - or see one on the bandscope, it attracts my
>  attention, without the use of packet.
>  3. There is a category of Unlimited in SS. That is a single op 
> assisted  category. It is becoming more popular and those single 
> ops DO get to jump on
>  packet spots legally. Spots of "new blood" gets attention from this
>  category.
>  4. The sample size of spots about which N7MAL is complaining is 
> VERY small.
>  However, given the small sample size, if the same single op 
> station worked
>  N7MAL in 2002, 2003 and 2004 within a few minutes of his being 
> spotted, it
>  would raise my eyebrows.
>  5. In checking my own logs, I see I worked N7MAL in 2001 when he 
> had zero
>  spots. I didn't work N7MAL in 2002, 2003 or 2004. Guess I wasn't 
> tuning the
>  2nd radio hard enough.
> 
>  73, Ken, K6LA / VY2TT
> 
> 
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