At least we'll know what killed it. Until then I'll beat the dead horse.
<tic>
73,
Korey
YI9VCQ/KA5VCQ
Baghdad, Iraq
> -----Original Message-----
> From: cq-contest-bounces@contesting.com [mailto:cq-contest-
> bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of N7MAL
> Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2005 2:17 PM
> To: k1ttt@arrl.net; cq-contest@contesting.com
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] WW SSB - the corruptive influence of packet
>
> That is precisely the attitude that will lead to the eventual end of
> contesting.
>
>
> MAL N7MAL
> BULLHEAD CITY, AZ
> http://www.ctaz.com/~suzyq/N7mal.htm
> http://geocities.com/n7mal/
> Don't worry about the world coming to an end today.
> It's already tomorrow in Australia
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: David Robbins K1TTT
> To: cq-contest@contesting.com
> Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2005 12:09
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] WW SSB - the corruptive influence of
packet
>
>
> Trying to ask node sysops to shut down during a contest would be a
> futile
> effort. The spotting network was designed and constructed by and
for
> contesters and will not shutdown just because someone thinks they
want a
> contest without it. you can suggest this all you want, but it just
> ain't
> going to happen.
>
>
> David Robbins K1TTT
> e-mail: mailto:k1ttt@arrl.net
> web: http://www.k1ttt.net
> AR-Cluster node: 145.69MHz or telnet://dxc.k1ttt.net
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: cq-contest-bounces@contesting.com [mailto:cq-contest-
> > bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of N7MAL
> > Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2005 23:22
> > To: Bill Parry; cq-contest@contesting.com
> > Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] WW SSB - the corruptive influence of
packet
> >
> > And therein is the problem. You, and others, said: ""Outlawing
packet
> > tomorrow would not
> > have the impact that many might hope. We have large numbers of
> stations
> > that
> > are not entering the contest but just hoping to work a few new
> > countries.""
> >
> > How do you know? Why not give it a try? Voluntarily ask all the
nodes
> to
> > shut down during CQWWCW. My prediction is the only loser will be
the
> > sponsor because a majority of the scores will be down. Contesting
> without
> > a crutch, what an intriguing concept.
> > Again I ask why not give it a try?
> >
> >
> > MAL N7MAL
> > BULLHEAD CITY, AZ
> > http://www.ctaz.com/~suzyq/N7mal.htm
> > http://geocities.com/n7mal/
> > Don't worry about the world coming to an end today.
> > It's already tomorrow in Australia
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Bill Parry
> > To: cq-contest@contesting.com
> > Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2005 0:10
> > Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] WW SSB - the corruptive influence of
> packet
> >
> >
> > Folks,
> >
> > I realize that packet causes lots of problems in contests but it
is
> not
> > the
> > cause of all evil in contesting. There have been lots of
stations
> that
> > identify infrequently for years...certainly before packet was in
> common
> > use.
> >
> > It is really easy to blame the things you don't like for the all
the
> > foolishness we hear in the contests. Outlawing packet tomorrow
would
> not
> > have the impact that many might hope. We have large numbers of
> stations
> > that
> > are not entering the contest but just hoping to work a few new
> > countries.
> > (We hope lots and lots of these stations.) They will continue to
use
> > packet
> > and cause whatever negative consequences that result.
> >
> > Considering the large numbers of Multi's, assisted stations and
> stations
> > that don't enter the contests, the numbers of S/O stations
> improperly
> > using
> > packet is probably a pretty small percentage. This isn't to say
that
> > what
> > they are doing is right. It is not. I just think that the number
is
> > pretty
> > small considering all the "smoke and fire" that this topic has
> > generated.
> >
> > Hopefully, any change in the contest rules will be
well-considered.
> > Changes
> > can have both positive and negative consequences. I sure hope
that
> we
> > don't
> > make the rules so "pristine" that it's no fun anymore.
> >
> > Bill, W5VX
> >
> >
> >
> > >
> > >The really annoying thing I found this weekend were the
stations
> > >who were only identifying every 5 or 10 minutes because they
> > >had a steady diet of packet assisted stations feeding their
pileups
> > >who knew their callsign a priori. As a single-op unassisted,
it's a
> > >royal PITA when you are trying to make the most of your
operating
> > >time to have to sit on a frequency for 5 or 10 minutes
listening to
> a
> > >huge pileup and wondering if you really need that station for a
> > >multiplier because he won't identify.
> > >
> > >Packet can be fun if your just chasing DX, so I won't rain on
> > >packet user's parade (sometimes I am a packet user), but I just
> > >wish that the rare DX in the contests wouldn't assume that we
> > >are all using it all the time. Send your call each QSO like
> > >ZD8Z/N6TJ does.
> > >
> > >73 de Mike,
> W4EF.....................................................
> > >
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