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Re: [CQ-Contest] S&P Rate

To: "Randy Thompson K5ZD" <k5zd@charter.net>, "'Pete Smith'" <n4zr@contesting.com>, <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] S&P Rate
From: "Richard F DiDonna NN3W" <nn3w@cox.net>
Date: Mon, 1 Jun 2009 21:19:57 -0400
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I agree with Randy.  Once I hit about 120 to 140 an hour on SSB, SO2R 
becomes taxing.  It also gets harder to do it seamlessly without seeing like 
a clutz.

At 60 or 90 an hour, SO2R is relatively easy, especially when you consider 
that a SSB QSO takes 15 seconds and that leaves 30 to 45 seconds to spend 
CQing and/or focused on the second radio.

Its also MUCH easier on Day 1 because its guaranteed that anybody you tune 
across on the first day is a new QSO.  Day 2 on SO2R on 15 or 10 meters is 
much tougher because you've worked ZW5B, LW9DA, PJ2T several times before, 
and if you're band map isn't totally up to date (and especially when you're 
not assisted), every QSO is a guess as to if you've worked a given station 
or not.

73 Rich NN3W

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Randy Thompson K5ZD" <k5zd@charter.net>
To: "'Pete Smith'" <n4zr@contesting.com>; <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Monday, June 01, 2009 7:17 PM
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] S&P Rate


> S&P results differ depending on the contest and the situation.  For the 
> CQWW
> CW the last two years, I have started the contest by doing S&P on 40m.
>
> In 2007, my first hour was an 87.  Most on 40 meters, but then a pass 
> across
> 80m.  In 2008, the first hour was 116.  That's probably as good as it 
> gets.
> Looking at the log, I was working multiple stations per minute and per 
> Khz.
> So it must have been a very target rich environment.  I also had the 
> luxury
> of knowing every station I called was a new QSO so I didn't always have to
> get their call before I called them!
>
> I once worked 62 stations in 40 minutes during a 10 meter opening to South
> America in a CQWW SSB contest.  Again, lots of loud signals and all fresh
> meat.
>
> What slows down S&P is the second pass up the band or after you have 
> worked
> a lot stations.  Each one you hear, you have to check to see if they have
> already been worked.  That takes time.
>
> When doing SO2R, the rate you can do on the second radio is directly a
> function of how busy you are on the run radio.  I find that if I can make
> 10-15 QSOs per hour on the second radio, that is a lot. But, there are 
> cases
> in contests like Sweepstakes where I have made as many QSOs on the second
> radio doing S&P as I did on the run radio.
>
> Randy, K5ZD
>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: cq-contest-bounces@contesting.com
>> [mailto:cq-contest-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Pete Smith
>> Sent: Monday, June 01, 2009 2:08 AM
>> To: cq-contest@contesting.com
>> Subject: [CQ-Contest] S&P Rate
>>
>> I'm curious - what do top contest ops hope to do when
>> operating S&P, in terms of rates per hour, or per shorter
>> period?  What about SO2R on the second radio while continuing
>> to run, at some rate or another, on the first?
>>
>> 73, Pete N4ZR
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