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Re: [CQ-Contest] A new "DX cluster" experience for contesters

To: Randy Thompson K5ZD <k5zd@charter.net>
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] A new "DX cluster" experience for contesters
From: Richard Hill <rehill@ix.netcom.com>
Reply-to: rehill@ix.netcom.com
Date: Sat, 17 Apr 2010 07:59:32 -0700
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Are external wind machines considered motors?  <Grin>

Rich
NU6T

Randy Thompson K5ZD wrote:
> I am ok with sail boat races and motor boat races happening at the same time
> as long as we know who are using motors... 
>
> Randy, K5ZD
>  
>
>   
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: cq-contest-bounces@contesting.com 
>> [mailto:cq-contest-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of K1TTT
>> Sent: Saturday, April 17, 2010 11:44 AM
>> To: 'CQ Contest'
>> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] A new "DX cluster" experience for contesters
>>
>> The problem is pete, that since in our contests all those 
>> different entry classes are running at the same time on the 
>> same lake people get confused and think they are a sailboat 
>> competing with a power boat... where the power boat operators 
>> usually ignore the slow poke sailboats and just watch each other.
>>
>>
>> David Robbins K1TTT
>> e-mail: mailto:k1ttt@arrl.net
>> web: http://www.k1ttt.net
>> AR-Cluster node: 145.69MHz or telnet://dxc.k1ttt.net
>>  
>>
>>     
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Pete Smith [mailto:n4zr@contesting.com]
>>> Sent: Saturday, April 17, 2010 10:36
>>> To: CQ Contest
>>> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] A new "DX cluster" experience for 
>>>       
>> contesters
>>     
>>> In the 19th century, mechanical propulsion largely replaced sail as 
>>> the motive power for commercial and military ships.  In the 20th 
>>> century, internal combustion engines and the invention of 
>>>       
>> the outboard 
>>     
>>> motor made it possible to dispense with sails and oars on 
>>>       
>> almost all vessels.
>>     
>>> Yet sailboats and rowboats persist today, and are a source of great 
>>> pleasure for millions.  Intense and popular competitions among both 
>>> types of vessel take place frequently and attract millions of 
>>> enthusiasts world-wide.  At the highest level, sailboat 
>>>       
>> competitions 
>>     
>>> such as the America's Cup involve use of extremely advanced 
>>>       
>> technology 
>>     
>>> on the non-propulsive side of the bright line defining the sport.
>>> Competitions among powerboats occur too, from small 
>>>       
>> outboards to boats 
>>     
>>> powered by huge gas turbine engines.
>>>
>>> I hope my point is obvious.
>>>
>>> 73, Pete N4ZR
>>>
>>>
>>> On 4/17/2010 4:00 AM, Christian Schneider wrote:
>>>       
>>>> VE5RA wrote:
>>>>
>>>>         
>>>>> So begins the 'age of the robots'.
>>>>>
>>>>>           
>>>> But it will be only one more of those smaller and bigger steps in 
>>>> the development - applauded as keeping up with progress and maybe 
>>>> gaining
>>>>         
>>> new
>>>       
>>>> blood. Will it be two or three years that the first 
>>>>         
>> M/M-stations "man"
>>     
>>> their
>>>       
>>>> 160m-station during daylight and 10m during nighttimes 
>>>>         
>> with a qso-robot?
>>     
>>> Or
>>>       
>>>> is this already done? Given the ingenuity on the software side it 
>>>> may
>>>>         
>>> take
>>>       
>>>> "only" some combining of decoding-technology with expanded 
>>>> ESM-routines
>>>>         
>>> of
>>>       
>>>> existing contest software. Initial stumbling may be 
>>>>         
>> irrelanvant with 
>>     
>>>> the rates at that time and allow refinement to adjust it 
>>>>         
>> for coming things.
>>     
>>>> An(y) operator will be present in a(ny) room there.
>>>> This becoming more widespread it will earn the ususal 
>>>>         
>> criticism by 
>>     
>>>> irrelevant small guns refuted with the argument they 
>>>>         
>> seemingly still
>>     
>>> want to
>>>       
>>>> operate with a straight key. With becoming more 
>>>>         
>> widespread even some
>>     
>>> bigguns
>>>       
>>>> may feel bored but won´t dare to utter it publicly in the 
>>>>         
>> presence 
>>     
>>>> of chestpounding colleagues.
>>>> Acting may begin [IRONY ON] if more bigguns get fire from XYLs 
>>>> because
>>>>         
>>> they
>>>       
>>>> unintentionally checked the ECAR-box ("effective contest analyzing
>>>>         
>>> routine")
>>>       
>>>> in their software which starts at 0001 after the test and ordered 
>>>> the
>>>>         
>>> OH8X`
>>>       
>>>> 3-ele 160m-beam (flawlessly interacting with the online-banking
>>>>         
>>> software)
>>>       
>>>> because there were three unworked skimmer spots from 
>>>>         
>> Africa on that
>>     
>>> band.
>>>       
>>>> [IRONY OFF].
>>>>
>>>> Disclaimer: This is NO condemning of the technology itself. It is 
>>>> kind
>>>>         
>>> of
>>>       
>>>> sorrow that this blending taking place in smaller and bigger (i.e.
>>>>         
>>> skimmer)
>>>       
>>>> steps changes the flavour of the hobby substantially. At 
>>>>         
>> some points 
>>     
>>>> of blending wine with pepsi it detracts some from it but 
>>>>         
>> of course 
>>     
>>>> may
>>>>         
>>> attract
>>>       
>>>> new consumers. Again: Like skimmer all this is tech-wise 
>>>>         
>> interesting
>>     
>>> and,
>>>       
>>>> yes, also fascinating, but at the same time somewhat 
>>>>         
>> saddening. Like 
>>     
>>>> it
>>>>         
>>> or
>>>       
>>>> leave it, I know and will do. We´ll only have some rule 
>>>>         
>> debate, some
>>     
>>> rule
>>>       
>>>> changes and may be some more retreats as far as "unassisted" is
>>>>         
>>> concerned.
>>>       
>>>> Not much more to do.
>>>>
>>>> Of course you are free to denounce this as "whining" - if 
>>>>         
>> you also 
>>     
>>>> think that a marathon-runner is techwise backwards only 
>>>>         
>> because he 
>>     
>>>> is
>>>>         
>>> fascinated
>>>       
>>>> by the techwise less effective way to span 42,5 km.
>>>>
>>>> Best 73, Chris
>>>>
>>>> (www.dl8mbs.de)
>>>>
>>>>
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