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Re: [CQ-Contest] public logs

To: Ron Notarius W3WN <wn3vaw@verizon.net>, cq-contest@contesting.com
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] public logs
From: Barry <w2up@comcast.net>
Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2010 06:36:49 -0600
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What's the big deal?  Are you hiding something?
Barry W2UP

Ron Notarius W3WN wrote:
> Why do you need to be so nosy that you demand to see my logs without cause?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: cq-contest-bounces@contesting.com
> [mailto:cq-contest-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Jorge Diez - CX6VM
> Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2010 8:19 AM
> To: cq-contest@contesting.com
> Subject: [CQ-Contest] public logs
>
> "Many contesters, including me, have allowed our CQ subscriptions to expire
> because of CQs' decision to release our logs to the public.  I still
> participate in CQ contests, purely for the love contesting, but my logs are
> not submitted.  Will contesters similarly withhold funds and logs from ARRL?
>
>
> What´s the problem with the logs to be public? Any QSO that nobody need to
> know about?
>
> 73,
> Jorge
> CX6VM/CW5W
>
> -----Mensaje original-----
> De: cq-contest-bounces@contesting.com
> [mailto:cq-contest-bounces@contesting.com] En nombre de Radio K0HB
> Enviado el: Miércoles, 09 de Junio de 2010 07:25 p.m.
> Para: José Nunes CT1BOH; cq-contest@contesting.com; k1zz@arrl.net; Kutzko,
> Sean, KX9X; K0GW@arrl.org; nn1n@arrl.org
> Asunto: Re: [CQ-Contest] AO8HQ vs DA0HQ - ARRL did the worse in two
> decisions
>
> Jose'
>
> In addition to the points you make, there are some other troubling points in
>
> the ARRL "statement".  (The statement is issued in the name of the "Awards 
> Committee", but in my experience such public statements are carefully 
> crafted, each word deliberately selected, and are passed for the approval of
>
> the "highest levels" of ARRL leadership.)
>
> NN1N writes:  "....far too much emphasis has been placed on a competition 
> that is essentially meaningless. Comparing the results of different national
>
> HQ teams, especially across continental boundaries, is comparing apples and 
> oranges....."
>
> Never mind that this phraseology ("essentially meaningless") is insulting on
>
> it's face, "comparing the results" between ANY stations is to some extent 
> "comparing apples and oranges".  The mythical "level playing" does not 
> exist, so if you carry this notion to it's logical end, ALL competition 
> could be deemed "essentially meaningless".
>
> NN1N writes: ".... by submitting a log the submitter agrees that the log may
>
> be made public...."
>
> Many contesters, including me, have allowed our CQ subscriptions to expire 
> because of CQs' decision to release our logs to the public.  I still 
> participate in CQ contests, purely for the love contesting, but my logs are 
> not submitted.  Will contesters similarly withhold funds and logs from ARRL?
>
> And finally NN1N writes: "The ARRL will not engage in further correspondence
>
> with regard to the 2009 IARU HF World Championship...."
>
> This attitude of "We've made up our mind, so further discussion of this 
> matter is a waste of our time" is astounding, especially from an 
> organization which depends primarily on the good will of it's rank-and-file 
> membership to support its' continued existence.
>
> 73, de Hans, K0HB
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Barry Kutner, W2UP             Lakewood, CO

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