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Re: [CQ-Contest] CQ WW Update

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Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] CQ WW Update
From: Mark Bailey <kd4d@comcast.net>
Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2010 13:15:28 -0500
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That's inventive but I don't think it's what the words say.  :-) 

If that's really what Bob meant, he or someone official needs to say so.

73,

Mark

73,

Mark



"Bob Naumann" <W5OV@W5OV.COM> wrote:

>The focus of this discussion has been directed at the least important
>part
>of the announcement.
>
>The most important part is:
>
>*Remote skimmers (beyond the 500m station circle) are *not permitted
>for any
>category,*
>
>Remote skimmers in this context being "private" or deployed by one
>station
>in any category for its own use which would violate the 500m circle
>rule.
>Again, the point is that remote stuff is not permitted!!!
>
>I think it is fair to conclude that the listing of RBN is intended to
>be as
>a generic example - it is not exclusionary of other similar technology
>"public" spotting network systems.
>
>I also think that the initial wording was chosen and intended to be
>generic
>without knowledge that by listing RBN was using a "brand name" and
>conveyed
>the exclusionary permission of only one specific spotting network.
>
>Let's try re-wording it this way:
>
>C. Remote skimmers (beyond the 500m station circle) are not permitted
>for
>any category, 
>except for a Reverse Beacon Network (RBN or similar publicly available
>aggregated skimmer-like system spotting network).
>Utilization of an RBN (or similar publicly available aggregated
>skimmer-like
>system) is permitted for all Multi-Operator 
>classes as well as for the Single Operator-Assisted categories ONLY. If
>you
>are a single op entry and access 
>a Reverse Beacon Network (or similar publicly available aggregated
>skimmer-like system), you MUST submit your log as ASSISTED.
>
>I'm confident that is what the announcement was intending to convey and
>I
>hope that helps.
>
>73,
>
>Bob W5OV
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: cq-contest-bounces@contesting.com
>[mailto:cq-contest-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of K1TTT
>Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 2010 6:16 AM
>To: cq-contest@contesting.com
>Cc: questions@cqww.com
>Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] CQ WW Update
>
>After I first sent this question k3est replied that he was traveling
>and
>forwarded the request to "others"...  how about it "others"?  can we
>proceed
>with using skimmers the way we have in other contests or are you going
>to
>stick by this new weird distinction between the RBN and other sources
>of
>skimmer spots?
>
>
>David Robbins K1TTT
>e-mail: mailto:k1ttt@arrl.net
>web: http://www.k1ttt.net
>AR-Cluster node: 145.69MHz or telnet://dxc.k1ttt.net
> 
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: David Robbins [mailto:k1ttt@verizon.net]
>> Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2010 13:20
>> To: cq-contest@contesting.com
>> Cc: questions@cqww.com
>> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] CQ WW Update
>> 
>> 
>> *C. *Remote skimmers (beyond the 500m station circle) are *not
>permitted
>> for
>> any category,* except for the *Reverse Beacon Network (RBN).*
>*Utilization
>> of the RBN is permitted for all Multi-Operator classes as well as for
>the
>> Single Operator-Assisted categories ONLY.* If you are a single op
>entry
>> and
>> access the Reverse Beacon Network, *you MUST submit your log as
>> ASSISTED.***
>> 
>> 
>> What makes the RBN unique that allows it but not direct access to
>other
>> skimmer servers?  Should I block all access to my skimmer server, or
>> monitor who is connected to report them to the committee???  I think
>there
>> is at least one other skimmer aggregator at ve7cc, is that one not
>allowed
>> but RBN is?
>
>
>
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