Dave, I just want you and everyone else to know that the RBN will be up
well before the contest starts, and we think it will be much better than
ever before.
We have just added a dedicated server (thanks K5TR) in addition to the
one at K4TD, which we think had problems with the spot and user volume
because it wasn't dedicated. Dave, KM3T has been pitching in this
morning to help us with scaling problems, and I expect to have much more
news soon. F5VIH/5B4 and PY1NB are working their tails off!
The reason the reversebeacon.net aliases are down is that the DNS
forwarding is one of the pieces being worked on. Right now, you can get
the full RBN feed from n4zr.dyndns.org, port 7000, which I am
babysitting right now.
All the filters will be up and working on all nodes by contest start.
73, Pete N4ZR
The World Contest Station Database, updated daily at www.conteststations.com
The Reverse Beacon Network at http://reversebeacon.net, blog at
reversebeacon.blogspot.com,
spots at telnet.reversebeacon.net, port 7000
On 11/26/2010 10:19 AM, Dave Hawes wrote:
> Hi Pete.
>
> How about an update from the RBN Team as to status of K4TD.
>
> I have been testing the K4TD connection, and it's up and down like a
> yo-yo. In addition, you surely know that it is being redirected to
> WB5VZL. At the VZL node, the "by_zone" and "by_state" filters are not
> working correctly. I don't think "by_state" is working at all.
> "By_zone" is apparently just looking at the callsign and not the
> state. A "by_zone 5" filter excludes WZ7I. I can only guess that
> it's looking at the "7" in the callsign. This (by_zone) is a very
> small problem.
>
> The worst thing happening right now is the frequent disconnects at the
> RBN feed. Is there an N1MM command that will automatically reconnect?
>
> Please don't think we are unappreciative of your and the rest of the
> RBN Team's efforts to provide a solid feed during the contest. We
> are. We're just getting nervous, that's all. :-)
>
> Dave
>
>
>
> On 24 Nov 2010 at 10:07, Pete Smith wrote:
>
> > Regarding Dave's concern about the use of "public", it seems to me
> > that's moot, since Skimmer spots are available only by Telnet and Telnet
> > is by definition "public." All this says is that you can't password
> > protect the Skimmer or otherwise limit access, and you must publicize
> > the address so anyone who wants to can find it. The easiest way to do
> > that is to send spots to the RBN, but I'd also be glad to set up a web
> > page as a public registry for IP addresses and/or URLs of Telnet RBN
> > servers, if that would be useful
> >
> > 73, Pete N4ZR
> >
> > The World Contest Station Database, updated daily at
> www.conteststations.com
> > The Reverse Beacon Network at http://reversebeacon.net, blog at
> reversebeacon.blogspot.com,
> > spots at telnet.reversebeacon.net, port 7000
> >
> >
> > On 11/24/2010 7:28 AM, Pete Smith wrote:
> > > Wow, quite a flap. Our little RBN group has no desire to be singled
> > > out. VE7CC does indeed run a Skimmer-enabled node - IIRC you can
> > > set/skimmer there and get both Skimmer and regular DXcluster spots. It
> > > covers, I believe, all the Skimmers on the RBN that have published
> their
> > > IP address (some cannot, and some prefer not to).
> > >
> > > I think the CQWW rule should be modified slightly to add "and other,
> > > similar *public* sources of Skimmer spots." This would permit
> > > connecting to VE7CC, other aggregators of Skimmer spots, or individual
> > > Skimmers - as Dave has pointed out, this should be permitted.
> > >
> > > Connecting to the any public source of Skimmer spots only gets you
> > > Skimmer *spots* - it does not get you the Skimmer display of an entire
> > > swath of the band. Public Skimmers that are spotting only running
> > > stations, and aggregators like the RBN that spot only running stations
> > > on HF, should not be a concern, because they cannot be exploited by any
> > > individual station to, for example, hear weak Europeans calling them on
> > > 160.
> > >
> > > It seems to me that the ARRL anticipated this in their Skimmer rule,
> > > which antedated the RBN. It has 2 key components (my interpretation) -
> > > any remote Skimmer must be public, and it must not be controlled so as
> > > to benefit its owner over others. Both of these tests are met by
> > > connecting to the RBN, to VE7CC, or to any individual public
> Skimmer run
> > > by someone else.
> > >
> > > On the RBN reliability front - we now have a second server running at
> > > n4zr.reversebeacon.net port 7000, and have offers of two more. The
> plan
> > > is to use this additional capacity both to spread the load and to add
> > > redundancy. Users will be able to connect to telnet.reversebeacon.net
> > > port 7000 and will be assigned to one of the servers, either in a
> > > round-robin configuration or in some more fail-safe arrangement, still
> > > TBD. Stay tuned.
> > >
> > > 73, Pete, N4ZR
> > > The World Contest Station Database, updated daily at
> www.conteststations.com
> > > The Reverse Beacon Network at http://reversebeacon.net, blog at
> reversebeacon.blogspot.com,
> > > spots at telnet.reversebeacon.net, port 7000
> > >
> > >
> > > On 11/23/2010 7:10 PM, K1TTT wrote:
> > >> Ah, but that does not prohibit use of spotting networks, which are
> > >> specifically allowed by:
> > >>
> > >> 4. Single Operator Assisted (All Band or
> > >> Single Band): ... QSO alerting assistance is
> > >> allowed (this includes, but is not limited to,
> > >> packet, local or remote Skimmer and/or
> > >> Skimmer-like technology, Internet). ...
> > >>
> > >> And does that not rely on receivers beyond the 500m circle? So,
> if I help a
> > >> friend set up a receiving system and they put spots into a packet
> spotting
> > >> network is that not legal? If I replace that friend with a
> skimmer, what is
> > >> different? Besides that the skimmer doesn't have to sleep or take
> bathroom
> > >> breaks, that is.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> David Robbins K1TTT
> > >> e-mail: mailto:k1ttt@arrl.net
> > >> web: http://www.k1ttt.net
> > >> AR-Cluster node: 145.69MHz or telnet://dxc.k1ttt.net
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>> -----Original Message-----
> > >>> From: Edward [mailto:sawyered@earthlink.net]
> > >>> Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 2010 00:03
> > >>> To: w5ov@w5ov.com; 'K1TTT'
> > >>> Cc: cq-contest@contesting.com
> > >>> Subject: RE: [CQ-Contest] CQ WW Update
> > >>>
> > >>> Unless everyone can use the remote receiver and then its okay...
> > >>>
> > >>> Glad I stick to simple unassisted. More fun...less fine print.
> > >>>
> > >>> Good Luck to all this weekend.
> > >>>
> > >>> Ed N1UR
> > >>>
> > >>> -----Original Message-----
> > >>> From: w5ov@w5ov.com [mailto:w5ov@w5ov.com]
> > >>> Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2010 6:14 PM
> > >>> To: K1TTT
> > >>> Cc: w5ov@w5ov.com; sawyered@earthlink.net; cq-contest@contesting.com
> > >>> Subject: RE: [CQ-Contest] CQ WW Update
> > >>>
> > >>> Dave,
> > >>>
> > >>> The pertinent part is:
> > >>>
> > >>> 3. All transmitters and receivers used
> > >>> by the entrant must be located within a
> > >>> single 500-meter diameter circle or within
> > >>> the property limits of the station
> > >>> licensee's address, whichever is greater.
> > >>>
> > >>> 4. All antennas used by the entrant must
> > >>> be physically connected by wires to the
> > >>> transmitters and receivers used by the
> > >>> entrant.
> > >>>
> > >>> No remote anything is permitted by the above.
> > >>>
> > >>> You can download the entire current rules here:
> > >>>
> > >>> http://www.cqww.com/rules/CQWW-Rules-2010.pdf
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> 73,
> > >>>
> > >>> Bob W5OV
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>> Quote the rule.
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> David Robbins K1TTT
> > >>>> e-mail: mailto:k1ttt@arrl.net
> > >>>> web: http://www.k1ttt.net
> > >>>> AR-Cluster node: 145.69MHz or telnet://dxc.k1ttt.net
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> -----Original Message-----
> > >>>>> From: w5ov@w5ov.com [mailto:w5ov@w5ov.com]
> > >>>>> Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2010 21:47
> > >>>>> To: sawyered@earthlink.net
> > >>>>> Cc: cq-contest@contesting.com
> > >>>>> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] CQ WW Update
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> It has to do with you installing something outside of your own
> property
> > >>>>> solely for your own use. This sort of thing is expressly
> forbidden in
> > >>>>> the
> > >>>>> rules.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> "Public" systems like this that anyone can connect to are all
> permitted
> > >>>>> as
> > >>>>> "assistance".
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Private vs. public.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Do they provide the same info? Perhaps. But that's not the point.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> de W5OV
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>> It doesn't really matter to me since I never use them.contest
> or no
> > >>>>>> contest,
> > >>>>>> but what exactly is the difference between a personal skimmer
> located
> > >>>>> in
> > >>>>>> Europe (for a W/VE contester) and a European Skimmer that displays
> > >>> all
> > >>>>> its
> > >>>>>> info on the net. Aren't they both remote CW receivers that are
> > >>>>> showing
> > >>>>>> callsigns and frequencies that can be read by the W/VE
> station? The
> > >>>>> CQ
> > >>>>> WW
> > >>>>>> rules make it seem like one is way more advantageous than the
> other
> > >>>>> but
> > >>>>> I
> > >>>>>> am
> > >>>>>> failing to see why.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Ed N1UR
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> _______________________________________________
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