I agree. A simple to write rule too.
Tod, K0TO
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-----Original message-----
From: Vladimir Sidorov <vs_otw@rogers.com>
To: Aldewey@aol.com, cq-contest@contesting.com
Sent: Thu, Dec 23, 2010 20:58:48 GMT+00:00
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] NAQP CW + Skimmer
Al,
Sorry not to follow your request literarily and let me suggest right in the
list.
CW is a mode based the a human ability to decode CW by ear. Therefore any CW
contest deserves to have a respective entry.
>From my point of view SO entries should be divided into:
1. Operators conductiong QSOs and gaining information by means of decoding
CW by ear, only.
2. All others.
It cannot be simplier and clearer.
73,
Vladimir VE3IAE
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----- Original Message -----
From: <Aldewey@aol.com>
To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Thursday, December 23, 2010 1:36 PM
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] NAQP CW + Skimmer
> The intent of the current rule is that multi-channel band decoders , such
> as CW Skimmer, are allowed as long as they do NOT connect to any external
> source. For example, you are not allowed to connect to a TELNET address
> the
> publishes spots from Remote Skimmers.
>
> However, if the multi-channel band decoder is totally contained within the
> station, it is allowed.
>
> If someone can suggest a way to state that more simply, in one to two
> sentences without a lot of legalize, please respond off the reflector.
>
> 73,
>
> Al, K0AD
>
>
>
>
> In a message dated 12/23/2010 11:58:19 A.M. Central Standard Time,
> K1TTT@ARRL.NET writes:
>
>> Although NCJ does not have an official "Contest Committee", issues
> related
>> to the NCJ contests are discussed among all the NCJ contest managers.
>> Often, input is solicited from others also. Final decisions rest with
>> the
>> Contest Manager for each of the 6 contests we sponsor. For the Sprints,
>> it was
>> obvious that the allowing the use of multi-channel band decoders made no
>> sense because of the QSY rule. It really came down to being an issue
>> for
>> the CW NAQP. We decided to allow it in the Single Operator Class as
> long
>> as
>> there was no connection via the internet or any other outside source.
> In
>> 2009, the NAQP rule was changed to state:
>
> So you DO intend to allow wide band decoding and generating of spotting
> information by CW Skimmer and Skimmer Server??
>
> "Access to spotting information obtained directly or indirectly from any
> source other than the station operator, such as from other stations or
> automated tools, is prohibited,"
>
> since CW Skimmer in its wideband decoding mode automatically generates
> 'spotting information' I would consider this first statement to exclude
> that
> use of the CW Skimmer or Skimmer Server software.
>
> "except as follows: Technological methods of copying information in the
> contest exchange (e.g. CW Skimmer, code readers, etc.) are permitted as
> long
> as all components are entirely contained within the station."
>
> Since this qualifies use of technology as being for 'copying information
> in
> the contest exchange' I consider this, in the CW Skimmer usage, to be the
> narrow band audio only decoding of a single qso at a time. This is
> reinforced by lumping it in with 'code readers' which in general do not
> generate spotting information and only allow copying a single audio
> stream
> at a time.
>
> Perhaps the lack of complaint was because participants took the more
> conservative reading and assumed that NO sources of spotting information
> were allowed, which included the wide band decoding and spotting modes of
> the CW Skimmer.
>
> David Robbins K1TTT
> e-mail: mailto:k1ttt@arrl.net
> web: http://www.k1ttt.net
> AR-Cluster node: 145.69MHz or telnet://dxc.k1ttt.net
>
>
>
>
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