Final thoughts/Summary...
Distance and path both impact one station's ability versus another in
working a target country.
The distance may be the same between two stations and that target yet
one station has a huge advantage over another because of the path.
One station may be closer than another to the target yet the farther
station has station has a great advantage.
In other cases the one closer one has the advantage over another
station who is closer to the target.
And there are a lot of variables including, but not limited to, the
band and other propagational factors.
I think everyone agrees there are certain areas, perhaps even all
areas, which are overall disadvantaged relative to an area in the far
Northeast, given that the vast majority of the contacts are made
between US/VE and Europe.
The US and Canada combined is a big area, and it may not be possible
to level anything to any extent in an objective way to allow someone
in Missouri or Iowa or California, for example, to compete with a VY2
or a W1 in a way that everyone could accept as fair.
The goals would be to stimulate competition, allow more to be excited
about the competition and to recognize outstanding efforts by those
who might not be located in a geographical area that would allow them
to receive that recognition with the current scoring and results
reporting.
I think I am good so far, and that's exactly where I will end.
73...Stan, K5GO
Sent from Stan's IPhone
On Jul 1, 2011, at 6:24 PM, "Tom W8JI" <w8ji@w8ji.com> wrote:
> Any valid adjustment based on previous score data to level the field
> would
> require operators and antennas to be the same. There is a total lack
> of
> useful data to do anything based on previous scores, because
> stations and
> operators are not equal. Even if they were equal, the data base is too
> small.
>
> The only way to do anything meaningful to level would be propagation
> data,
> but again that depends on stations working correctly. It is painfully
> obvious that is lacking also, but it still world be far better than
> looking
> at previous scores.
>
> If we just want to allow underdogs a better chance to win, with no
> regard to
> creating equal chances, then a score based adjustment would work
> just fine.
> The old bracket race or golf handicap type of system applied to Ham
> radio.
>
> 73 Tom
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <w1md@cfl.rr.com>
> To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
> Sent: Friday, July 01, 2011 10:25 AM
> Subject: [CQ-Contest] ARRL DX "Leveling, Handicapping, Equalizing"
>
>
>> So...the data is there...40+ years of it. Seems that it would be a
>> fairly
>> easy and straightforward process to use the results of previous
>> years to
>> come up with a "leveling, handicapping, equalizing" factor that
>> would take
>> into account the vast majority of factors...including Distance,
>> Propagation, and those years where there were 'anomalies' that
>> allowed a
>> station outside of W1-3 and VE1-3 to get into the top ten.
>>
>> Sorry about the formatting...this is just 9 years of data
>> (2002-2010) for
>> the SOHP category.
>>
>> 9 out of 90 stations came from areas other than W1-3 or VE1-3 or
>> roughly
>> 10%
>> IN =3
>> VA = 2
>> CO = 1
>> STX = 1
>> WCF = 1
>> NM = 1
>>
>>
>> 1 K5ZD (W4PA, op) 6,173,244 4,454 462 WMA 1 1 KT1V (NT1N, op)
>> 6,226,974
>> 4,094 507 NH 1 1 K5ZD (W4PA, op) 6,588,960 4,240 518 WMA 1
>> 2 K1DG 5,629,746 4,027 466 NH 1 2 KQ2M 5,675,454 4,086 463 CT 1 2
>> N2NT
>> 6,343,305 4,187 505 NNJ 2
>> 3 AA1K 5,172,453 4,019 429 DE 3 3 VY2ZM (K1ZM, op) 5,490,114 3,902
>> 469 MAR
>> 3 K3CR (LZ4AX, op) 5,060,160 3,514 480 WPA 3
>> 4 W9RE 5,063,502 3,898 433 IN 9 4 K1TO 5,480,952 4,042 452 WCF 4 4
>> KT1V
>> 4,946,856 3,782 436 NH 1
>> 5 K1ZZ 5,045,175 3,957 425 CT 1 5 K5ZD (W4PA, op) 5,458,815 4,089
>> 445 WMA
>> 1 5 K3ZO 4,640,286 3,298 469 MDC 3
>> 6 N2IC 4,902,660 3,891 420 CO 0 6 N2NT 4,914,630 3,766 435 NNJ 2 6
>> W1WEF
>> 4,569,642 3,234 471 CT 1
>> 7 W1WEF 4,854,462 3,686 439 CT 1 7 AA1K 4,461,795 3,419 435 DE 3 7
>> N2LT
>> 4,361,880 3,260 446 NNJ 2
>> 8 K2UA 4,789,530 3,942 405 WNY 2 8 K3ZO 4,357,794 3,347 434 MDC 3 8
>> WC1M
>> 4,170,264 3,374 412 NH 1
>> 9 K5GN 4,628,520 3,588 430 STX 5 9 K2UA 4,212,600 3,304 425 WNY 2 9
>> KQ2M
>> 4,155,624 3,267 424 CT 1
>> 10 K3CR (LZ4AX, op) 4,446,192 3,376 439 WPA 3 10 VY2TT 4,043,034
>> 3,186 423
>> MAR 10 K1RM 4,120,200 3,052 450 CT 1
>> 2,002 2,003 2,004
>>
>>
>> 1 VY2ZM (K1ZM, op) 5,382,234 3,978 451 MAR 1 N9RV 4,714,356 3,596
>> 437 IN 9
>> 1 VY2PA 4,863,075 3,925 413 MAR
>> 2 KQ2M 4,806,459 3,633 441 CT 1 2 N2NT 4,635,210 3,670 421 NNJ 2 2
>> N2NT
>> 4,026,048 3,226 416 NNJ 2
>> 3 N2NT 4,660,608 3,664 424 NNJ 2 3 K3CR (LZ4AX, op) 4,462,128 3,443
>> 432
>> WPA 3 3 K3CR (LZ4AX, op) 3,445,200 2,900 396 WPA 3
>> 4 K3CR (LZ4AX, op) 4,366,941 3,331 437 WPA 3 4 AA1K 4,035,045 3,241
>> 415 DE
>> 3 4 AA1K 3,315,510 2,805 394 DE 3
>> 5 AA1K 4,190,670 3,366 415 DE 3 5 VE3DZ 3,209,856 2,572 416 ON 5 K1ZZ
>> 3,128,625 2,781 375 CT 1
>> 6 K1ZZ 3,850,344 3,027 424 CT 1 6 VY2TT (K6LA, op) 3,198,555 2,755
>> 387 MAR
>> 6 VY2TT 3,042,660 2,669 380 MAR
>> 7 K5ZD 3,782,652 3,121 404 WMA 1 7 W4RX (K0DQ, op) 3,175,326 2,607
>> 406 VA
>> 4 7 VC3O (VE3AT, op) 2,793,168 2,282 408 ON
>> 8 W3GRF (K0DQ, op) 3,764,988 2,946 426 VA 4 8 K3ZO 3,165,855 2,741
>> 385 MDC
>> 3 8 WC1M 2,766,510 2,605 354 NH 1
>> 9 N2LT 3,687,420 3,020 407 NNJ 2 9 VC3A (VE3AT, op) 3,107,160 2,520
>> 411 ON
>> 9 VE3DZ 2,653,992 2,234 396 ON
>> 10 WC1M 3,634,536 3,044 398 NH 1 10 K1ZZ 3,103,290 2,523 410 CT 1
>> 10 N2LT
>> 2,642,400 2,400 367 NNJ 2
>> 2,005 2,006 2,007
>>
>>
>> 1 K1KI 3,593,274 3,103 386 CT 1 1 VY2ZM (K0DQ, op) 4,892,940 4,006
>> 410 MAR
>> 1 VY2ZM 5,549,292 4,656 399 MAR
>> 2 K3CR (LZ4AX, op) 3,557,358 3,137 378 WPA 3 2 NN3W (@ N3HBX)
>> 4,066,260
>> 3,392 404 MDC 3 2 K3CR (LZ4AX, op) 5,514,120 4,362 424 WPA 3
>> 3 K1ZM 3,501,762 3,121 374 EMA 1 3 K3CR (LZ4AX, op) 3,868,128 3,186
>> 407
>> WPA 3 3 VY2TT 5,218,695 4,557 387 MAR
>> 4 N2NT 3,381,240 2,966 380 NNJ 2 4 K5ZD (W1UE, op) 3,717,186 3,361
>> 374 WMA
>> 1 4 K1RX 4,984,317 4,474 377 NH 1
>> 5 AA1K 2,985,831 2,757 361 DE 3 5 AA1K 3,637,740 3,235 380 DE 3 5
>> N2IC
>> 4,757,745 3,796 419 NM 5
>> 6 K1ZZ 2,851,785 2,495 381 CT 1 6 K1ZZ 3,634,962 3,150 386 CT 1 6
>> K1ZZ
>> 4,702,365 3,785 415 CT 1
>> 7 VC3E (VE3AT, op) 2,802,618 2,639 354 ON 7 WC1M 3,192,783 3,158
>> 341 NH 1
>> 7 K5ZD 4,586,838 3,972 386 WMA 1
>> 8 WC1M 2,515,032 2,687 312 NH 1 8 VY2TT (K6LA, op) 3,092,202 3,026
>> 346 MAR
>> 8 W9RE 4,552,119 3,909 393 IN 9
>> 9 N2LT 2,277,330 2,266 335 NNJ 2 9 N2LT 2,933,856 2,692 366 NNJ 2 9
>> WC1M
>> 4,413,225 4,108 361 NH 1
>> 10 K3ZO 2,209,920 2,302 320 MDC 3 10 W1WEF 2,684,079 2,720 331 CT 1
>> 10
>> VX3AT (VE3AT, op) 4,398,198 3,639 406 ON
>> 2,008 2,009 2,010
>>
>>
>> W1MD
>>
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