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Re: [CQ-Contest] ARRL DX "Leveling, Handicapping, Equalizing"

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Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] ARRL DX "Leveling, Handicapping, Equalizing"
From: Hank Greeb <n8xx@arrl.org>
Date: Wed, 03 Aug 2011 09:02:12 -0400
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 From these data, one can only conclude that the people on the east 
coast are more competent contest operators than us dolts who live in 
other parts of the U.S.A.

It's kinda hard to conclude anything else, particularly since the 
reflector did weird things with the formatting of these data.

73 de n8xx Hg

On 7/1/2011 3:00 PM, w1md@cfl.rr.com wrote:
> Message: 6
> Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2011 10:25:53 -0400
> From:<w1md@cfl.rr.com>
> Subject: [CQ-Contest] ARRL DX "Leveling, Handicapping, Equalizing"
> To: cq-contest@contesting.com
> Message-ID:<20110701142553.4KK8H.4578.root@cdptpa-web14-z01>
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> So...the data is there...40+ years of it. Seems that it would be a fairly 
> easy and straightforward process to use the results of previous years to come 
> up with a "leveling, handicapping, equalizing" factor that would take into 
> account the vast majority of factors...including Distance, Propagation, and 
> those years where there were 'anomalies' that allowed a station outside of 
> W1-3 and VE1-3 to get into the top ten.
>
> Sorry about the formatting...this is just 9 years of data (2002-2010) for the 
> SOHP category.
>
> 9 out of 90 stations came from areas other than W1-3 or VE1-3 or roughly 10%  
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> IN =3                                                                         
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> VA = 2                                                                        
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> CO = 1                                                                        
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> STX = 1                                                                       
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> WCF = 1                                                                       
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> NM = 1                
>
>
> 1     K5ZD (W4PA, op) 6,173,244       4,454   462     WMA     1               
> 1       KT1V (NT1N, op) 6,226,974       4,094   507     NH      1             
>   1       K5ZD (W4PA, op) 6,588,960       4,240   518     WMA     1
> 2     K1DG    5,629,746       4,027   466     NH      1               2       
> KQ2M    5,675,454       4,086   463     CT      1               2       N2NT  
>   6,343,305       4,187   505     NNJ     2
> 3     AA1K    5,172,453       4,019   429     DE      3               3       
> VY2ZM (K1ZM, op)        5,490,114       3,902   469     MAR                   
>   3       K3CR (LZ4AX, op)        5,060,160       3,514   480     WPA     3
> 4     W9RE    5,063,502       3,898   433     IN      9               4       
> K1TO    5,480,952       4,042   452     WCF     4               4       KT1V  
>   4,946,856       3,782   436     NH      1
> 5     K1ZZ    5,045,175       3,957   425     CT      1               5       
> K5ZD (W4PA, op) 5,458,815       4,089   445     WMA     1               5     
>   K3ZO    4,640,286       3,298   469     MDC     3
> 6     N2IC    4,902,660       3,891   420     CO      0               6       
> N2NT    4,914,630       3,766   435     NNJ     2               6       W1WEF 
>   4,569,642       3,234   471     CT      1
> 7     W1WEF   4,854,462       3,686   439     CT      1               7       
> AA1K    4,461,795       3,419   435     DE      3               7       N2LT  
>   4,361,880       3,260   446     NNJ     2
> 8     K2UA    4,789,530       3,942   405     WNY     2               8       
> K3ZO    4,357,794       3,347   434     MDC     3               8       WC1M  
>   4,170,264       3,374   412     NH      1
> 9     K5GN    4,628,520       3,588   430     STX     5               9       
> K2UA    4,212,600       3,304   425     WNY     2               9       KQ2M  
>   4,155,624       3,267   424     CT      1
> 10    K3CR (LZ4AX, op)        4,446,192       3,376   439     WPA     3       
>         10      VY2TT   4,043,034       3,186   423     MAR                   
>   10      K1RM    4,120,200       3,052   450     CT      1
>                       2,002                                                   
>         2,003                                                           2,004 
>                   
>                                                                               
>                                                                               
>                   
>                                                                               
>                                                                               
>                   
> 1     VY2ZM (K1ZM, op)        5,382,234       3,978   451     MAR             
>         1       N9RV    4,714,356       3,596   437     IN      9             
>   1       VY2PA   4,863,075       3,925   413     MAR     
> 2     KQ2M    4,806,459       3,633   441     CT      1               2       
> N2NT    4,635,210       3,670   421     NNJ     2               2       N2NT  
>   4,026,048       3,226   416     NNJ     2
> 3     N2NT    4,660,608       3,664   424     NNJ     2               3       
> K3CR (LZ4AX, op)        4,462,128       3,443   432     WPA     3             
>   3       K3CR (LZ4AX, op)        3,445,200       2,900   396     WPA     3
> 4     K3CR (LZ4AX, op)        4,366,941       3,331   437     WPA     3       
>         4       AA1K    4,035,045       3,241   415     DE      3             
>   4       AA1K    3,315,510       2,805   394     DE      3
> 5     AA1K    4,190,670       3,366   415     DE      3               5       
> VE3DZ   3,209,856       2,572   416     ON                      5       K1ZZ  
>   3,128,625       2,781   375     CT      1
> 6     K1ZZ    3,850,344       3,027   424     CT      1               6       
> VY2TT (K6LA, op)        3,198,555       2,755   387     MAR                   
>   6       VY2TT   3,042,660       2,669   380     MAR     
> 7     K5ZD    3,782,652       3,121   404     WMA     1               7       
> W4RX (K0DQ, op) 3,175,326       2,607   406     VA      4               7     
>   VC3O (VE3AT, op)        2,793,168       2,282   408     ON      
> 8     W3GRF (K0DQ, op)        3,764,988       2,946   426     VA      4       
>         8       K3ZO    3,165,855       2,741   385     MDC     3             
>   8       WC1M    2,766,510       2,605   354     NH      1
> 9     N2LT    3,687,420       3,020   407     NNJ     2               9       
> VC3A (VE3AT, op)        3,107,160       2,520   411     ON                    
>   9       VE3DZ   2,653,992       2,234   396     ON      
> 10    WC1M    3,634,536       3,044   398     NH      1               10      
> K1ZZ    3,103,290       2,523   410     CT      1               10      N2LT  
>   2,642,400       2,400   367     NNJ     2
>                       2,005                                                   
>         2,006                                                           2,007 
>                   
>                                                                               
>                                                                               
>                   
>                                                                               
>                                                                               
>                   
> 1     K1KI    3,593,274       3,103   386     CT      1               1       
> VY2ZM (K0DQ, op)        4,892,940       4,006   410     MAR                   
>   1       VY2ZM   5,549,292       4,656   399     MAR     
> 2     K3CR (LZ4AX, op)        3,557,358       3,137   378     WPA     3       
>         2       NN3W (@ N3HBX)  4,066,260       3,392   404     MDC     3     
>           2       K3CR (LZ4AX, op)        5,514,120       4,362   424     WPA 
>     3
> 3     K1ZM    3,501,762       3,121   374     EMA     1               3       
> K3CR (LZ4AX, op)        3,868,128       3,186   407     WPA     3             
>   3       VY2TT   5,218,695       4,557   387     MAR     
> 4     N2NT    3,381,240       2,966   380     NNJ     2               4       
> K5ZD (W1UE, op) 3,717,186       3,361   374     WMA     1               4     
>   K1RX    4,984,317       4,474   377     NH      1
> 5     AA1K    2,985,831       2,757   361     DE      3               5       
> AA1K    3,637,740       3,235   380     DE      3               5       N2IC  
>   4,757,745       3,796   419     NM      5
> 6     K1ZZ    2,851,785       2,495   381     CT      1               6       
> K1ZZ    3,634,962       3,150   386     CT      1               6       K1ZZ  
>   4,702,365       3,785   415     CT      1
> 7     VC3E (VE3AT, op)        2,802,618       2,639   354     ON              
>         7       WC1M    3,192,783       3,158   341     NH      1             
>   7       K5ZD    4,586,838       3,972   386     WMA     1
> 8     WC1M    2,515,032       2,687   312     NH      1               8       
> VY2TT (K6LA, op)        3,092,202       3,026   346     MAR                   
>   8       W9RE    4,552,119       3,909   393     IN      9
> 9     N2LT    2,277,330       2,266   335     NNJ     2               9       
> N2LT    2,933,856       2,692   366     NNJ     2               9       WC1M  
>   4,413,225       4,108   361     NH      1
> 10    K3ZO    2,209,920       2,302   320     MDC     3               10      
> W1WEF   2,684,079       2,720   331     CT      1               10      VX3AT 
> (VE3AT, op)       4,398,198       3,639   406     ON      
>                       2,008                                                   
>         2,009                                                           2,010 
>                   
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> W1MD
>
>
>
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>
> Message: 7
> Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2011 08:55:51 -0700
> From: w7dra@juno.com
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Distance scoring
> To: vk4ti@yahoo.com
> Cc: w8ji@w8ji.com, cq-contest@contesting.com
> Message-ID:<20110701.085617.989.1373900@mailpop09.vgs.untd.com>
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>
> a few years ago i worked a European contest and received a 34th place
> certif (SOSB40 LP).
>
> it is displayed proudly in the shack.....
>
> mike w7dra
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> Message: 8
> Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2011 11:55:09 -0600
> From: "W4ZW@Comcast.net"<w4zw@comcast.net>
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] DX Contest Handicap Proposal
> To: "hankkier@aol.com"<hankkier@aol.com>
> Cc: "w2lc@twcny.rr.com"<w2lc@twcny.rr.com>,
>       "cq-contest@contesting.com"<cq-contest@contesting.com>
> Message-ID:<E3B62895-05EE-45E9-8A7C-49D73D1D619B@comcast.net>
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>> Something similar to the rating and slope system for golf courses would fit 
>> when viewed from a regional basis.  This would compensate for propagation 
>> differences by region.  Maybe a handicap system based on region?  But 
>> posting finishes by region in addition to overall, a la SS would work.  I 
>> still favor the shorter time flight for those of us who are time restricted 
>> (and OOTCers!)
>> As a long time contester with limited time, I have always competed just for 
>> the fun of seeing how well I can do in the time I have available. I have 
>> operated from all over the US and much of the world and have experienced the 
>> wide disparity of propagation that exists and not generally not based on  
>> distance.
> Jon, RA/W4ZW
> Moscow
>
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