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To: Bob Naumann <W5OV@W5OV.COM>
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] CQWW impt notice: optional modification to cabrillo format
From: W0MU Mike Fatchett <w0mu@w0mu.com>
Date: Wed, 09 Nov 2011 09:06:37 -0700
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What is Multi Single?  A bunch of hams using ONE radio and taking 
turns.  At least that what it is to most people.  It has now devolved 
into 10 guys sitting around a bunch of radios now all running stations 
but only getting credit for Mults?  Why can't people just follow the 
rules or create new classes if this is the way the majority of people 
wish to operate?

If they want to run on more than one radio then move to Multi-Two or 
Multi-Multi.

To goal is to have fun while adhering to the rules.

I am still waiting for someone to explain to me how a station that is 
only supposed to be working Mults is making a mistake?

The guy working the station that is breaking the rules should not get 
credit for the contact.  That contact is not allowed by the rules.  If I 
get on and sign P5 while not in P5 all of the people I work still get 
credit for the contact and mult?  I sure hope not.

Follow the rules and enforce the rules.  Quit making up excuses for 
people to bend them and break them and rewarding them.

Mike W0MU

J6M CQ WW DX CW Contest 2011
J6/W0MU November 21 - December 1 2011
W0MU-1 CC Cluster w0mu.net


On 11/9/2011 5:43 AM, Bob Naumann wrote:
> If the multi-single gets no credit for these qsos, what's the problem?
>
> All the other stations they work get the benefit of them being on.
>
> Isn't the objective for all participants to have more fun?
>
> Seems to me that these multi-single guys making more zero-point qsos with
> other stations can only be positive for the other stations - the
> multi-single gains nothing.
>
> Them making the decision to do this may hurt them in other ways as they will
> not be looking for multipliers and may miss some.
>
> Sure, they might get a new multiplier responding to their CQ from time to
> time, but isn't this better than them calling CQ and saying "sorry, can't
> work you now, you're not a multiplier" to the rest of us?
>
> W5OV
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: cq-contest-bounces@contesting.com
> [mailto:cq-contest-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of W0MU Mike Fatchett
> Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2011 12:16 PM
> To: cq-contest@contesting.com
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] CQWW impt notice: optional modification to
> cabrillo format
>
> Wait................
>
> So a Multi/Single can break the rules and have their contacts removed
> yet the other station gets to keep the contact even though the station
> they worked violated the rules?  So what is to stop the mult station
> from running and just marking the non mults as zero pointers?
>
> This sounds like trouble waiting to happen especially with some folks
> who will stretch the rules to the max.
>
> Explain to me how the mult station ends up working non mults?
>
> Mike W0MU
>
> J6M CQ WW DX CW Contest 2011
> J6/W0MU November 21 - December 1 2011
> W0MU-1 CC Cluster w0mu.net
>
>
> On 11/8/2011 4:54 AM, kr2q@optimum.net wrote:
>> Hi...
>>
>> I just received an inquiry (as shown below) and I thought it was worth
> posting here too.
>> "We were M/S and find that we worked some non-mults with the mult station.
> What should we
>> do?"
>>
>> New this year for CQWW, you can now include a contact row in your cabrillo
> file that WILL NOT
>> COUNT.  This means the log checking will ignore this QSO for you, but will
> NOT ignore it for the
>> "other guy."  This way, YOUR log is clean AND the other guy does not get
> dinged.
>> How?
>>
>> Edit your cabrillo output as follows:
>>
>> For ONLY the row (or rows) you want to be ignored, insert an "X" (no
> quotes" in front of the
>> "QSO" portion of the row (no spaces).
>>
>> So a row that originally look like this:
>> QSO:  7011 CW 2009-11-28 0000 KT3Y   599 5      YU1LA         599 15     1
>>
>> Should be modified to look like this:
>> XQSO:  7011 CW 2009-11-28 0000 KT3Y   599 5      YU1LA         599 15
> 0
>> For M/S, also note that you should change the "Transmitter ID" (last
> column) from "1" to "0"
>> For full details (video) of the entire CQWW 2011 update, go to:
>>
>> http://www.pvrc.org/webinar/cqww_2011.wmv
>>
>> And THANKS again to the PVRC for hosting this.
>>
>> de Doug KR2Q
>> no "usual" disclaimer
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