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Re: [CQ-Contest] How close is too close?

To: <k5zd@charter.net>, <sawyered@earthlink.net>, <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] How close is too close?
From: "John Geiger" <aa5jg@fidmail.com>
Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2012 14:39:32 -0000
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It also may be that you aren't bothing them, but they are worried that the 
stations who might call them, who might not have as good of receivers, will 
be QRMed by you and pass them by as well.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Randy Thompson K5ZD" <k5zd@charter.net>
To: <sawyered@earthlink.net>; <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Monday, February 20, 2012 2:16 PM
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] How close is too close?


>> Numerous times this weekend I am being asked to QSY when "firing up" 
>> about
>> 350 to 500hz away from a BIG GUN Multi.  One of them was 10 over to me on
>> 40M and I had zero problem hearing the noise floor where I was sitting 
>> and
>> was actually running at 100 rate.  Yet this clearly bothered the other 
>> op.
>> What's with this?
>
> It's called defense.
>
> Some stations are more aggressive at it than others.
>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: cq-contest-bounces@contesting.com [mailto:cq-contest-
>> bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Edward Sawyer
>> Sent: Monday, February 20, 2012 11:56 AM
>> To: cq-contest@contesting.com
>> Subject: [CQ-Contest] How close is too close?
>>
>> It is interesting that I hear all these great reports of how wonderful 
>> the
>> (plug in your favorite radio here) receiver is for close channel
>> separation and brick wall blah blah blah.  Usually the venerable FT1000MP
>> is used as a comparison dummy in the statement.  I run 2 of them here.
>> And low power (which for this past weekend was 150W).
>>
>>
>>
>> Numerous times this weekend I am being asked to QSY when "firing up" 
>> about
>> 350 to 500hz away from a BIG GUN Multi.  One of them was 10 over to me on
>> 40M and I had zero problem hearing the noise floor where I was sitting 
>> and
>> was actually running at 100 rate.  Yet this clearly bothered the other 
>> op.
>> What's with this?
>>
>>
>>
>> Why would the FT1000MP Low Power guy be bothering the full power guy with
>> much newer and clearly better gear?  Is it that they are expecting 700 -
>> 1000hz of quiet breathing room in one of the biggest CW contests of the
>> year on an open band?  I certainly hope not.
>>
>>
>>
>> So what is the opinion from the group?  With the great rated receivers 
>> out
>> there, how close can someone get on CW and not really bother your run?
>> For me its 350hz.  Inside that and it causes problems.  If I hear 2 guys
>> 700 - 900hz apart, I am slipping in between.
>>
>>
>>
>> Maybe I should buy an amp and really push the impact out there.  With low
>> power, I shouldn't be your worst problem.
>>
>>
>>
>> Ed  N1UR
>>
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