There is no risk in extending this discussion. We need dialog with
contest organizers as much as possible. That's why CQ WPX became so
popular from last years. :)
The 8 band-changes on clock hour by Running is cleaver and open a lot
of strategy options; Strategy has been great part of this game from
the beginning. I learned that M/2 is similar to a small M/M, and very
different from M/S. If rules constrain M/2 in two bands It loose most
of it strategy component (and fun). It'll be like seat there and call
CQ on both radio, If you are lucky enough to be in rare DX place, good
for you. If you aren't, sorry.
I know the rules need to be simple and If it's not reflecting
sponsor's intent, so change it. But, please think about it before
change any thing on M/2 category for next year.
Thank you for reply. It's why you are the right guy on right place.
73, Luc
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PW7T Team member
WRTC.2006 Brazilian Referee
WRTC.2010 Brazilian Team Leader
PY8AZT (also PT7AG, R37U, ZY7C, PX8C, ZZ8Z)
LABRE, ARRL, CWJF & Fortaleza DX Group Member
2012/10/25 Randy Thompson K5ZD <k5zd@charter.net>:
> At the risk of extending this discussion, it is important that everyone
> remember that contesting rules are limited. We want to keep them simple so
> they are not 100 pages long!
>
> For MULTI-TWO:
>
> The INTENT of the rules are that you have two stations and two signals on
> two bands. Period.
>
> Given that, the use of a third band is not within the spirit of the rules.
> Use is defined as making transmissions. Therefore using a third band is not
> permitted unless counted as a band change.
>
> Reality:
>
> The contest committee can only check what is in the logs. Like many other
> aspects of contesting, we depend on the integrity of the participants to
> follow the intent of the rules even if every possibility is not explicitly
> allowed or denied. This is a game of working stations over the air -- not
> finding holes in the text.
>
> We will look for better definition of terms for next year's CQWW rules. For
> now, get on the air and have fun. That is what contesting is all about!
>
>
> Randy, K5ZD
>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: CQ-Contest [mailto:cq-contest-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of
>> Tõnno Vähk
>> Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2012 7:58 AM
>> To: k5zd@charter.net; 'Luc Moreira'; 'Contest Reflector'
>> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] SKED
>>
>> Trying to help a bit here.
>>
>> What Randy meant by active was transmitting! So it is simple - not more
>> than
>> 2 signals in the air and 8 band changes.
>>
>> But what Luc is asking and what is actually indeed a question is what is
>> a band change.
>>
>> We have had the same issues about MS which are now cleared out because in
>> MS new 10 minute period starts when a QSO is made! Not from any
>> transmission.
>>
>> But what about M2?? Rules don't specify.
>>
>> Does any transmission on a new band qualify as band change or it has to
>> be a QSO made?
>>
>> Trying CQ with no answers on a new band and coming back is 2 band changes
>> or not?
>>
>> Asking a mult on the 3rd band to QSY to RUN band is 2 band changes or
>> not?
>>
>> 73
>> Tonno
>> ES5TV
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: CQ-Contest [mailto:cq-contest-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of
>> Randy Thompson K5ZD
>> Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2012 7:39 AM
>> To: 'Luc Moreira'; 'Contest Reflector'
>> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] SKED
>>
>> Hello Luc,
>>
>> The concept of the Multi-Two category is very simple. Two stations. Only
>> two transmitted signals at any time. Each station can have 8 band changes
>> per hour.
>>
>> There is no minimum time to remain on a band. You can make one QSO and
>> then QSY to another band if you want.
>>
>> 73
>>
>> Randy, K5ZD
>>
>>
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: CQ-Contest [mailto:cq-contest-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf
>> > Of Luc Moreira
>> > Sent: Sunday, October 21, 2012 5:08 PM
>> > To: k5zd@charter.net; Contest Reflector
>> > Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] SKED
>> >
>> > 2012/10/21 Randy Thompson K5ZD <k5zd@charter.net>:
>> > > You can only have two
>> > > bands active at one time in the M2 category
>> >
>> > Randy,
>> >
>> > thanks for answer. I forgot to mention it, but all questions refer to
>> > M/2 category.
>> >
>> > I'm not sure what make one band "active". I searched for definition on
>> > rules, but I couldn't find it. I don't want to guess what it's right
>> > from top of my head. So, I have two more questions:
>> >
>> > - I suppose when I transmit on one band it becomes "active" (I mean no
>> > QSO made, just TX), and when I stop transmit on that band, it's no
>> > longer "active", that's right?
>> >
>> > - What is minimal time to be on "active band" before I make a new
>> > "band active"?
>> >
>> > PS. I'm aware about max 8 band-changes for each transmitter (It means
>> > Running) on clock hour.
>> >
>> > 73, Luc
>> > __
>> > PW7T Team member
>> > WRTC.2006 Brazilian Referee
>> > WRTC.2010 Brazilian Team Leader
>> > PY8AZT (also PT7AG, R37U, ZY7C, PX8C, ZZ8Z) LABRE, ARRL, CWJF &
>> > Fortaleza DX Group Member
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