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Re: [CQ-Contest] ARRL Cheating in ARRL using the cluster

To: "Pete Smith N4ZR" <n4zr@contesting.com>, "CQ Contest" <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] ARRL Cheating in ARRL using the cluster
From: "Jim Jordan" <k4qpl@nc.rr.com>
Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2013 16:04:20 -0500
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Wow! I wish NY4A could have found wherever it was you were getting your spots. We filtered out dozens of busted calls and skimmer perversions like "EK3LR", dropped leading letters, "O" for "Q" and the phenomenon reported where the spot was for, or on top of the mult, picking up the calling station as the runner, etc. And like "Whack-A-Mole" we'd delete them from the band map and a little while later the same busts were back again. All pretty annoying as M/2 trying to work them quickly and get back to the run frequency without losing it.
Having said that, seeing the "instant spots" from all over coming up instead 
of having to wait for someone to manually post the spot made a big positive 
difference. I noticed it when we went to a new band or had to change 
frequency.
73,

Jim, K4QPL @NY4A


----- Original Message ----- From: "Pete Smith N4ZR" <n4zr@contesting.com>
To: "CQ Contest" <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Monday, February 18, 2013 3:04 PM
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] ARRL Cheating in ARRL using the cluster


Are we talking about the same contest, Bob? No reason that the Russians would be working 9H1s.
Actually, I'm more interested in the busted calls you reported.  It's not 
that busts don't happen, because they do, but because readily-available 
filtering can catch almost all of them.  I was only on for 10 hours and 
1000 contacts, but they were almost all S&P.  I worked out 3 or 4 bands at 
a time - 0 spots waiting to be worked - and in that time I saw exactly 1 
bust that made it through to me.
73, Pete N4ZR
Check out the Reverse Beacon Network at
http://reversebeacon.net,
blog at reversebeacon.blogspot.com.
For spots, please go to your favorite
ARC V6 or VE7CC DX cluster node.

On 2/18/2013 12:27 PM, w5ov@w5ov.com wrote:
A lot of this seems to be the Skimmer/RBN network reporting the station
the runners are working.

Probably not anyone cheating in the manner you describe.

I found this a LOT. (Among all the other busted calls).

W5OV
(80m @ K3LR)


It seems like a couple of Russian station are cheating using the cluster.
I operated AB unlimited over the weekend and was checking spots the 
whole
weekend.

As the contest progressed over the weekend semi rare mults were worth
QSYing to. Over a dozen times as soon as the call appeared on my band map
  I
QSYed to it only to UT0U merrily CQing away.  (There I named a  call!)
Another U station did the same thing but I forgot to get his  call.  The
calls
spotted were semi-rare mults like (9H1 etc), but rare enough to attract a
crowd.  Once would be a coincidence, but it happened  many times.  Every
time
there was no hint of the station spotted.   Pure out and out cheating!

Did anyone else see that behavior? The only way to stop this crap is to
put pressure on them.

Bill K4XS



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