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Re: [CQ-Contest] WPX CW

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Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] WPX CW
From: Pete Smith N4ZR <n4zr@contesting.com>
Date: Thu, 30 May 2013 09:49:21 -0400
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It seems to me that the "don't name names" syndrome is fairly widespread in ham radio, though perhaps a little less so than in prior years. I've always been inclined to identify this as "Don Miller syndrome," dating to the time when ARRL was sued for disallowing some of his phonier DXpeditions. It's time to stop being gun-shy, folks - we now have at least some of the evidence, in the form of I/Q recordings of entire contests, so there's no reason not to bring public opinion to bear. I'm not specifically talking about operating practices here, but about at least the more egregious of rule violations. If you know about it, call 'em on it, publicly!

73, Pete N4ZR
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On 5/30/2013 12:07 AM, Mats Strandberg wrote:
This is a very important point.

I am myself not better than others. I was "jumped on" by a few Aligator big
guns, with signal strenghts of around 559-579 on 20 meters. I do not think
they intentionally wanted to steaa my frequency (20 meter CW, me using 800
W), but more a simple issue that the difference in power  between us made
them not hear my 800 W "QRP" signals...

I feel tempted to address this openly on the forum with call signs, because
this is a SYSTEM more than an unlucky coincidence.I now begin to understand
which stations run more and which run less than Full Legal Limit. Anyone
else noticed ths same phenomena?

But still I am gathering "courage" and as close to 100% statistical
evidence that my assumptions are correct.

The same intereting issue is that some stations seem to have extremely
"noicy" RX conditions - always. With such signal strenghts as described
above, I still always (no exceptions) need to repeat my call and serial
numbers many times, while this is not the case when calling weak US big
guns during poor conditions when signal strengths are 519-539.

In 95% of the cases, US and Canadian stations are still able to get both my
call and serial numbers just sent one.

Interesting difference between US and European (and other) big guns...


73 de RM2D (Mats)


2013/5/30 Randy Thompson K5ZD <k5zd@charter.net>

They will be "held accountable" when people are willing to name calls in
these public complaints...

-----Original Message-----
From: CQ-Contest [mailto:cq-contest-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of
Steve Bookout
Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2013 2:29 PM
To: Cqtestk4xs@aol.com
Cc: cq-contest@contesting.com
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] WPX CW

Hello all,

As we know, sometimes 'stuff' happens when changing rcvr filters, RIT or
changing antennas.  These bad situations shouldn't really last longer
than it takes to flip a switch or spin the dial.  Sometimes neither
station feels THEY should be the one to move.  Like I said 'stuff'
happens and this is contesting.

This becomes a problem, WHEN THE SAME STATION, time after time, contest
after contest, drops on top of you and starts CQ'ing.

People, +\- 100 Hz is not a clear frequency!

There are a couple of stations that are infamous for this. When will they
be held accountable for their arrogance and poor operating ethics?

73 de Steve, NR4M



On May 29, 2013, at 7:28, Cqtestk4xs@aol.com wrote:

My favorite is a certain zone 8 station that called me on my frequency
and then after he worked me, began to call CQ 100Hz away from my run
freq. It took a  couple of minutes to pry him off me.

Bill K4XS/KH7XS


In a message dated 5/29/2013 10:48:23 A.M. Coordinated Universal Tim,
g4odv@yahoo.co.uk writes:

Hello  Jesus,

I am truly sorry to have caused you this concern, I should have  said
that it was a remarkable  coincidence that you landed on my qrg,
which did happen 3 or 4 times . I really should have put that in a
better way  or preferably not mentioned it at all. Please accept my
public  apologies..
73  Bria


________________________________
From: EC1KR Jesus  <ec1kr@ec1kr.com>
To: g4odv@yahoo.co.uk
Sent: Tuesday, 28 May  2013, 17:24
Subject: WPX CW




Hi Brian.

Just  read your comments at 3830scores  about
us:

-------------------------
On the other hand it  was remarkable the number of times ED1R chose to
land on my qrg. He was  weak and I am not saying he was hearing me but
I was hearing his callers  who were busting up the esp numbers I was
trying to  get..
--------------------------

If we were weak there perhaps  we did not hear you at all as you are
off the back or off the side of our  beams. Also we set very narrow
filtering. Elementary it is not our  intention to make delibetate QRM
and we always play within the contest  rules. Nevertheless we
apologize for the trouble. Next time please do not  hesitate to turn
your antenna and ask for QSY.

We do not seek  controversy, but understands that is a Contest with a
very bad propagation  conditions where punishment not we heard each
other.

A  greeting.

73 de Jesus EC1KR / ED1R
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