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Re: [CQ-Contest] Remote

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Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Remote
From: Paul O'Kane <pokane@ei5di.com>
Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2013 20:56:41 +0100
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Jim W2LC has raised a number of valid issues that would
be better dealt with by the Contests Advisory Committee
and the DXCC Advisory Committee.

Some of the issues are complex, and will require the
involvement of the IARU, and the regulatory authorities
in each country concerned.

It should not be assumed that the relatively liberal
regulations applying to remote operation in the States
apply elsewhere.  For example, CEPT arrangements do not
permit remote operation of a station by a person located
in another country.

73,
Paul EI5DI




On 19/06/2013 18:12, w2lc@twcny.rr.com wrote:


On 18/06/2013 16:49, Jim Rhodes wrote:
Why is this such a bitter pill for some people to swallow? The station is in 
one location and that is the location that counts

Paul EI5DI wrote:   . . . . .  The bottom line is they're different, very 
different.

I agree Paul

So Paul, let’s take this a step further:  the technology exists today to place a 
station capable of remote operation on each and every DXCC entity in the world.  So 
let’s go ahead and do that, and place all of those 325 or so remote stations.  So 
instead of travelling to some remote location, everyone can remote to the DX station and 
operate.  Life is good.

This may be an exaggeration for 325 countries but remote station operation is 
being done in many countries right now.

Now, if you “work” one of those remote stations, are you working “someone” in 
that DXCC entity, province, county or state?  No.  The equipment may be there but the operator is not.

Would working a remotely operated station located in the US be approved for 
DXCC?  Yes, I believe that has happened already.  Working the remote station of 
K2DB in NNY has been allowed in SS for NNY credit.

But what if that remote station is located on Clipperton?  Would that contact 
be approved?

If I remotely operate some DX entity, am I a legal entry for that country or 
the contest?
I don’t think so, I don’t have a license to operate from that country.
Thus a DQ in the contest.  CEPT aside for the moment, since it does not cover 
every country.

If I work, say Paul EI5DI, who is operating a DX entity by remote, can I not 
then just remote in myself and work that same DX entity?  i.e. Work myself?  
Why not?  If there is no need for an operator to be there, then why not work 
yourself?  Is there a rule for not working yourself?  There might be.

Is working a remote piece of equipment, at a possibly uninhabited place, what 
we are looking to do?
Eh, I’m not feelin’ it Paul, how about you?

73 Scott W2LC
W2LC@twcny.rr.com

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