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Re: [CQ-Contest] 2 point rule

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Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] 2 point rule
From: W0MU Mike Fatchett <w0mu@w0mu.com>
Date: Fri, 29 Nov 2013 09:41:08 -0700
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Interesting point about bonus points. Online games specifically 1st shooters give bonuses for all sorts of actions in game.

How about a bonus for working 10, 100,1000 F stations. A bonus for working 10 F stations on 5 bands or 6 bands. A bonus for working 10 stations over X distance away. I am sure there are tons of other fun and meaningful bonuses that just are not popping in my head at the moment.

This type of scoring could created a whole new realm of strategy. I doubt it would ever be adopted to the big contests but who knows.

Mike W0MU

On 11/29/2013 8:30 AM, Rudy Bakalov wrote:
Randy,
The survey excluded demographics data and therefore we simply don't know if it 
polled the right people. Ditto for the members of the CQ Contest reflector- 
chances are most of them have the incentive of keeping the current rules.  But 
frankly, the reason we may want to change the rules of CQ WW is to
make it more fun, exciting, and challenging for all. Give it a fresh
identity to stand out from other contests.

Adding the the Classic category is a good example of adding a challenge to the 
contest. Yes, challenge- picking a winning strategy for maximizing the 24 hour 
operating time. Personally, I'd like to see it increased to 36 hours, but 24 is 
just fine as is.

Moving to distance-based scoring is another good possibility enabled by the 
prevalent use of computer logging.  Add the grid square to the exchange and you 
get not only the data to calculate distance, but also the added challenge of 
receiving an unique piece of information (instead of the generic CQ Zone).

How about borrowing ideas from other games? For example, add points (current 
scoring model) or bonus distance (distance based scoring) for working the same 
station on more than one band.


The point here is that there are opportunities to improve the contest, not just 
tweak old rules that no longer serve the purpose from the past.

Rudy N2WQ


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  From: Randy Thompson K5ZD <k5zd@charter.net>
To: 'Bob Kupps' <n6bk@yahoo.com>; cq-contest@contesting.com
Sent: Thursday, November 28, 2013 10:41 PM
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] 2 point rule
Attempts to introduce scoring changes for other areas of the world was
included as a question topic in the 2013 CQ WW participant survey.  Review
the voting results and the comments in the pdf file at
http://cqww.com/blog/?p=150

The first level challenge is to define the problem (or even if there is
one).  Then to define what the scoring should optimize.  Only then can you
rationally discuss the options.

Maintaining the status quo is strong with reflector readers.

Randy, K5ZD

-----Original Message-----
From: CQ-Contest [mailto:cq-contest-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of
Bob Kupps
Sent: Friday, November 29, 2013 12:22 AM
To: cq-contest@contesting.com
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2 point rule

Hi and thanks for all the comments.

I am persuaded by the arguments in favor of retaining the 2 point rule
for NA. In fact those arguments apply to other continents as well and IMO
applying the 2 point rule equally across the globe for all intra-
continental Qs would seem to go a long way toward reducing by half the
penalty for crossing over arbitrary continental boundaries (3-2 vs 3-1).

Would this rule change be an affront to anyone's sense of good
sportsmanship and fair play?

73 Bob
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