Mats,
The difference was that for WRTC2014 the contests more popular (or
restricted) regionally were credited or advantaged for qualifying purposes
only to competitors located in those areas -- SS, NAQP, NA Sprint and
Oceania DX did NOT count outside their areas of concentrated activity.
Similarly, ARRL DX was valued more for US/VE participants than for others.
This worldview focus is healthy for nudging WRTC growth toward a more truly
worldwide event. Looking outward geographically as well as
demographically. The great activity and growth in EU is appropriately
recognized with more teams from EU than from any other geographic area
(including NA), but how about focusing on possible ways to increase
participation from South America, Africa, Oceania, and especially the
technology hotbeds of Asia?
I do look forward to observing a great WRTC2018 in Germany. Hopefully the
2018 event will strengthen the basis for more events in the follow-on years
with even greater participation.
73, Dave K3ZJ
On Wed, Dec 3, 2014 at 2:55 AM, Mats Strandberg <sm6lrr@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> David,
>
> Regarding WPX and IARU I agree. They should not be considered less than
> WAE and RDXC.
>
> The Germans have full right to stimulate their own WAE and I do not see
> promotion of either WAE or RDXC as social engineering. WAE has less
> participation I agree, but RDXC in Europe has no less activity than IARU
> for sure, and most probably also not less than any CQ contest. Remember,
> Europe is also a very strong contest community and more important than
> that, still having a considerable growth compared to US and JA to give a
> few examples. This time WRTC is in Europe, so nothing strange some
> additional focus is on European contests. The same was before WRTC 2014 in
> the US but with focus on NA.
>
> 73 de Mats
>
> On Wednesday, December 3, 2014, David Siddall <hhamwv@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Mats,
>>
>> Thanks for your thoughts, but as I noted WAE & RDXC were elevated ABOVE
>> CQWPX and IARU. RDXC & WAE certainly are enjoyed by many, they are fun
>> contests, but they do not draw numbers of competitors with worldwide
>> distribution equivalent to CQWPX & IARU. Do we really need social
>> engineering to push competitors into this or that contest and tell us what
>> we "should" like?
>>
>> 73, Dave K3ZJ
>>
>> On Tue, Dec 2, 2014 at 11:30 PM, Mats Strandberg <sm6lrr@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Dave,
>>>
>>> While I do argue with the 2018 organizers on the Assistsd/Non Assisted
>>> issue, I fully support the decision to elevate WAE and RDXC to the same
>>> level and CQWW and CQ WPX.
>>>
>>> Why?
>>>
>>> Simply becuase those two contests are globally considered much bigger
>>> than they are in some continents..I do consider the CQ contests superb and
>>> they will forever remain as two of my favourite Top Five contests. However,
>>> without question, WAE and RDXC have in late years become even more fun to
>>> participate in - and this not only to Europeans and Russians. They are now
>>> by me and many others considered at same popularity level as the CQ
>>> contests.
>>>
>>> RDXC is not a regional contest. It is a Worldwide contest where Russians
>>> compete separately and the rest in a worldwide group. Working DX stations
>>> is heavily stimulated by different points compared to working stations from
>>> the same continent. The log checking and penalties system requires better
>>> operator skills compared to some other contests where the contest echange
>>> is more or less given. In RDXC, you nned to make sure you receive both the
>>> other stations's callsign and exchange correctly. Moreover, you must
>>> moderate your speed in a way that ensures that the other station also gets
>>> your call and exchange correctly. If not, penalties for both of you. I know
>>> this has caused some US frustration, but in my honest opinion, this develop
>>> and stimulate true operator skills rather than skills of relying on the
>>> database of the log program.
>>>
>>> WAE used to be a contest I did not pay attention to because of QTCs.
>>> They bothered me because I did not feel I was control of them. It was a new
>>> way of contesting and I was against and did not work WAE for many years.
>>> Then I gradualy started working it with pleasure but always avoiding
>>> exhange of the "troublesome" QTCs. One day I decided to open my eyes and
>>> challenge myself to try echanging QTCs. From that day I got stuck! The
>>> skill-set needed to work WAE in full extent by exchanging QTCs is different
>>> from normal contesting and the operator that masters that additional
>>> complexity of WAE should definitely receive the same credits as the one
>>> that runs 300+ rates exchanging predictable zones in a CQWW.
>>>
>>> It is time for Americans to finally explore RDXC and WAE in a serious
>>> way and with 1000 points value, be sure the bands will be boiling also in
>>> North America those weekends. Run rates in RDXC are excellent for any
>>> station participating - for sure not only for Russians. Particpate and
>>> enjoy instead of maintaining a prejudiced opinion about these two great
>>> events!
>>>
>>> 73 de Mats RM2D (SM6LRR)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 2014-12-02 23:15 GMT+03:00 David Siddall <hhamwv@gmail.com>:
>>>
>>>> The difference in rules between WRTC2014 and WRTC2018 that struck me was
>>>> that the prior emphasis on worldwide contests while accommodating the
>>>> major
>>>> regionals was abandoned.
>>>>
>>>> For WRTC2014, only CQWW received full 1000 value, with CQWPX at 950 and
>>>> IARU at 900. Major regional contests such as ARRL, Russian, WAE, AA
>>>> were
>>>> 900 or less. But for WRTC2018, instead of elevating the truly worldwide
>>>> contests -- CQWPX & IARU -- the organizers instead emphasize European
>>>> regional contests -- WAE and Russian -- both of which now get the top
>>>> 1000
>>>> value.
>>>>
>>>> This is a step backward from promoting worldwide competition. It
>>>> elevates
>>>> two Euro-centric competitions with less participation above the more
>>>> popular worldwide contests as well as above the other major regionals
>>>> such
>>>> as ARRL and AA. Having lived in areas of the world where propagation
>>>> doesn't support full time efforts in the regionals (whether or not one
>>>> can
>>>> "work anyone" but for fewer points/mults), I appreciate the truly
>>>> worldwide
>>>> competitions that we have. It says something that these rose to the
>>>> top in
>>>> popularity in the free marketplace of contests.
>>>>
>>>> Just my observation.
>>>>
>>>> 73, Dave K3ZJ
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