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Re: [CQ-Contest] Cut numbers -- a different take

To: w5gn@mxg.com, cq-contest@contesting.com
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Cut numbers -- a different take
From: Ktfrog007--- via CQ-Contest <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Reply-to: Ktfrog007@aol.com
Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2014 17:52:05 -0500
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Yet another take:
 
In what radio service do the operators deliberately confuse things by using 
 cut numbers, especially when there is QRM, QSB, weak signals, etc?.  I  
thought real "radiomen" would consider the conditions and adjust accordingly 
to  get the message across accurately.  I thought cut numbers were to be used 
 only when it was safe and appropriate to do so.
 
I had a friend, W9CG (SK), who was a ship operator in the old days and  
that's what he told me.
 
 
73,
Ken, AB1J
 
 
 
 
In a message dated 12/15/2014 17:00:27 GMT Standard Time, w5gn@mxg.com  
writes:

At least  for the WPX CW contest, N1MM and N1MM+ both decode the cut
number for the  serial, so you can type exactly what you hear and
see the transcribed  numbers.  I was surprised to find the CQ WW does 
not decode cut  numbers for the zone, but I guess that was a conscious
choice since the  zone will normally be populated from the call.
I'm not sure what other  contests are similarly decoded.

Of course, for ARRL 10, or any contest  where the exchange can 
include either serial numbers or text  (state/oblast/etc), 
cut numbers can't be safely decoded.

And I'll  always send 5NN NN from EI/W5GN for the ARRL CW and others
contests that  send power; not only because it sounds nice, and seems
to be very well  understood - I can't recall every needing to fill
with actual numbers - but  also because "99" is the "nick-number" of 
my bride, KA5PQD, plus, her  Grandmother signed her letters from Texas
in the 1880's with "99 - Peace  and Love", which could go along with
73 and 88 on the  air!

99,
and 
MERRILLY CHRISTMAS,
Barry and Judy  Merrill

-----Original Message-----
From: CQ-Contest  [mailto:cq-contest-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of 
Art Boyars
Sent:  Monday, December 15, 2014 8:40 AM
To: cq-contest@contesting.com
Subject:  [CQ-Contest] Cut numbers -- a different take

Well, yes, they are  annoying -- especially if I am running (hah!).  But...

1.  If  I am S&P, I usually hear one report before my QSO, so I am ready 
for cut  numbers.  (That's for actual spot-free S&P; might not apply to  
skill-free point-and-click.)

2.  I think we will eventually learn  to copy cut numbers, just like we 
learned to love 5NN -- and even ENN -- even  at QRQQQ.  And I think all the big 
guns here in Zone 5 are sending 5NN 5,  not even T5 or o5, and certainly 
not 05.  Who am I to complain if some  European wants to send A4 or A5, or if 
some Brazilian wants to use AA?   It all saves time, and, as the noted 
electrical experimenter Ben Franklin  (3BF, in the pre-license days) said, 
"Time 
is QSOs."

3.  "Ah," you  say, "A4, etc., are zone numbers.  We already know those.
We're  complaining about Ser No's."  Yes, and you have made my point about 
CQ WW  -- no copying skill req'd; but that's a different topic.  But it does 
 lead me to...

4.  ...Point 2, again.  The user has to be  smart -- what can the copying 
station handle -- in this particular QSO?   It's just like wise use of code 
speed (or phonetics).  Right now, I think  most of the regular contesters can 
decode N=9 and T=0 in a QSO NR.  I  think E=5 and A=1 will be next.  I 
don't know if we'll ever get beyond  that.

In the end, Darwin (preferring the soft sciences, he was never  QRV) will 
rule, and what works best will survive.  Who want's to go back  to .....
----. ----. ----- .....? Or hand keys? Or paper logs?  The  innovators will 
decide what improves their desired results -- whether that be  max rates, 
max points, or max fun.

(Regarding leading zeros: Those of  us who start the 'Test late and are 
sending NR<10 when everybody else is  >200 find that it helps to send the 
leading zero until you have at least  two digits, sometimes three.  The copying 
op often cannot believe that NR  5 is right, and asks for a repeat.
OTOH, many lower-tier op's do, indeed,  seem to use it too long, but that 
might be based on their own  experience.)

And if you are sitting there grumping while everybody else  is increasing 
their rate by 1% or 2%, I sincerely hope you are having  fun.

73, Art K3KU
"Tune for maximum  fun"
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