CW spy numbers stations use what we call the "ANDUWRIGMT" cut numbers
system. A=1, N=2, D=3, etc. The sequence of cut numbers was discovered
when identical number sets were transmitted by voice stations.
73, Zack W9SZ
On 12/15/14, Ktfrog007--- via CQ-Contest <cq-contest@contesting.com> wrote:
> Yet another take:
>
> In what radio service do the operators deliberately confuse things by using
>
> cut numbers, especially when there is QRM, QSB, weak signals, etc?. I
> thought real "radiomen" would consider the conditions and adjust accordingly
>
> to get the message across accurately. I thought cut numbers were to be
> used
> only when it was safe and appropriate to do so.
>
> I had a friend, W9CG (SK), who was a ship operator in the old days and
> that's what he told me.
>
>
> 73,
> Ken, AB1J
>
>
>
>
> In a message dated 12/15/2014 17:00:27 GMT Standard Time, w5gn@mxg.com
> writes:
>
> At least for the WPX CW contest, N1MM and N1MM+ both decode the cut
> number for the serial, so you can type exactly what you hear and
> see the transcribed numbers. I was surprised to find the CQ WW does
> not decode cut numbers for the zone, but I guess that was a conscious
> choice since the zone will normally be populated from the call.
> I'm not sure what other contests are similarly decoded.
>
> Of course, for ARRL 10, or any contest where the exchange can
> include either serial numbers or text (state/oblast/etc),
> cut numbers can't be safely decoded.
>
> And I'll always send 5NN NN from EI/W5GN for the ARRL CW and others
> contests that send power; not only because it sounds nice, and seems
> to be very well understood - I can't recall every needing to fill
> with actual numbers - but also because "99" is the "nick-number" of
> my bride, KA5PQD, plus, her Grandmother signed her letters from Texas
> in the 1880's with "99 - Peace and Love", which could go along with
> 73 and 88 on the air!
>
> 99,
> and
> MERRILLY CHRISTMAS,
> Barry and Judy Merrill
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: CQ-Contest [mailto:cq-contest-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of
> Art Boyars
> Sent: Monday, December 15, 2014 8:40 AM
> To: cq-contest@contesting.com
> Subject: [CQ-Contest] Cut numbers -- a different take
>
> Well, yes, they are annoying -- especially if I am running (hah!). But...
>
> 1. If I am S&P, I usually hear one report before my QSO, so I am ready
> for cut numbers. (That's for actual spot-free S&P; might not apply to
> skill-free point-and-click.)
>
> 2. I think we will eventually learn to copy cut numbers, just like we
> learned to love 5NN -- and even ENN -- even at QRQQQ. And I think all the
> big
> guns here in Zone 5 are sending 5NN 5, not even T5 or o5, and certainly
> not 05. Who am I to complain if some European wants to send A4 or A5, or
> if
> some Brazilian wants to use AA? It all saves time, and, as the noted
> electrical experimenter Ben Franklin (3BF, in the pre-license days) said,
> "Time
> is QSOs."
>
> 3. "Ah," you say, "A4, etc., are zone numbers. We already know those.
> We're complaining about Ser No's." Yes, and you have made my point about
> CQ WW -- no copying skill req'd; but that's a different topic. But it does
>
> lead me to...
>
> 4. ...Point 2, again. The user has to be smart -- what can the copying
> station handle -- in this particular QSO? It's just like wise use of code
>
> speed (or phonetics). Right now, I think most of the regular contesters
> can
> decode N=9 and T=0 in a QSO NR. I think E=5 and A=1 will be next. I
> don't know if we'll ever get beyond that.
>
> In the end, Darwin (preferring the soft sciences, he was never QRV) will
> rule, and what works best will survive. Who want's to go back to .....
> ----. ----. ----- .....? Or hand keys? Or paper logs? The innovators will
>
> decide what improves their desired results -- whether that be max rates,
> max points, or max fun.
>
> (Regarding leading zeros: Those of us who start the 'Test late and are
> sending NR<10 when everybody else is >200 find that it helps to send the
> leading zero until you have at least two digits, sometimes three. The
> copying
> op often cannot believe that NR 5 is right, and asks for a repeat.
> OTOH, many lower-tier op's do, indeed, seem to use it too long, but that
> might be based on their own experience.)
>
> And if you are sitting there grumping while everybody else is increasing
> their rate by 1% or 2%, I sincerely hope you are having fun.
>
> 73, Art K3KU
> "Tune for maximum fun"
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